• arthurpizza@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    We need to stop with the proprietary bike parts. A bike that isn’t able to be repaired destroys a lot of the benefits of bike ownership.

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      9 months ago

      Agreed. That’s one of the big benefits of cheap bikes currently - cheap, available parts that work in a wide range of bikes. There’s always been proprietary shit though, this particular tech isn’t new in that regard.

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      9 months ago

      Oh god. Another “we need to stop…” post.

      This is how innovation happens - one company creates a thing, and years later another company creates a better thing. You want to stop innovation? Stick with your logic and only have the first thing. But then you’d likely have 1 gear, poorer braking, no electrics, etc, etc.

      At some point innovation overwhelms tradition and the new thing is the standard part, like a Shimano gearset which, at one point, was a custom part.

      I’ve been burned by buying the wrong pivot (CP/M, Colecovision, Dreamcast, Betamax, Laserdisc) over the years, but now innovation kept going and so my M2 Mac, AppleTV and Synology library all work smoothly together. If you’re going to cry every time you see something new and hate it, you’re going to have a hard time in the future.

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          9 months ago

          First off, it would be “inferring”, not implying. I imply, you infer.

          Next, no - I’m not saying that. That’s moving the goalposts. I’m saying your original statement of no new technology that not open source is a fallacy too. Proprietary tech often leads the way in innovation, and then that becomes the target of open tech as the tech is duplicated, refined, and then commodified.

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            9 months ago

            How is that moving a goal post? Proprietary parts often mean the only the original manufacturer can upgrade or repair. Open standards allow anyone to build additional parts that are compatible.

            This is not a hypothetical situation. There are thousands of high quality e-bikes with proprietary batteries, and sometimes the manufacturer does not offer replacement batteries.

            When the battery is dead, the consumer has very few choices. With open standard hardware they can simply buy another battery. Why is this simple concept hard for you to understand?

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            8 months ago

            Try leaving that first sentence out in the future, so you don’t immediately come across as a smug asshole not worth engaging with.

            • HollandJim@lemmy.world
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              8 months ago

              Interesting. I offer to explain how grammar works. You decide to berate and insult me and I’m the “smug asshole”? Hm.

              Know what I like the most? The block feature. It allows me the opportunity to have more interesting conversations with more educated, open-minded people. Wheat from chaff, as it were.

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                8 months ago

                Language, as well as grammar, should be looked at as a living document. It’s always changing, growing, evolving as society does the same.

                And yes, when your first response to someone has to do with grammar, and not to do with what they said to you, you’re saying “Actually, what you meant to say…” and that’s where the smug asshole hangs out. (Ironic, I know.)

                They did not ask for a grammar lesson, nor was one warranted. Come down off your high horse.