• JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    If that quiet old man hadn’t decided to try to cling to power despite no longer being fit to hold the office, we might not even be in this predicament.

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      You’re missing a little genocide factor and a shitloads of unkept promises here

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        Yeah, the “leftifts” that didn’t show up for those “reasons” are as bad as the magatards and bear the same responsibility. As a leftist myself (not in US though) I curse the absurdism of leftist politicians and electors and their puritanical behavior that can’t seem to do real politics.

        • lemmingthelemmers@lemmy.world
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          All of those words to say “I don’t actually believe in anything and I have no clue of what I am talking about.”

          Very impressive.

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            I believe in pragmatism and not letting fascist take over for free.

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              The democrats are the ultimate enablers and coconspirators of fascism. The republicans just carry the baton past the finish line. Marco Rubio was confirmed 99-0.

              Look at what the democrats are doing right now. It’s the same thing they did for four years when they could have made a difference.

              As usual, they are doing nothing meaningful. They are comfortable while the constitution implodes.

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          It’s quite paradoxical; right, an ideology about them-vs-us being such united and left, an ideology (at least theoretically) about camaradery being such divided

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          You want them to keep voting for the lesser evil until eternity with both evils moving further to the right every election, got it?
          Nothing absurd there.

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            Harm reduction is better than nothing. Yes, I fucking do, then I want them to vote for better people on a local level as they have the option to do. First reduce risk of further harm. Then treat the wound.

            It’s crazy that you would rather have a dictatorship than a centralist .

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              Yeah, like you vote the mediocre and not fascist candidate and you can still protest. But if you vote (or don’t participate) the fascist one then you’ll not be able to protest and suddenly the genocide might be coming home.

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                Why do you think things will get better. Not every dictator gets overthrown. Only around, 60%? Bad odds. Your cancer metaphor is apt because removing cancer often kills the patient.

                Finally some interesting things happening, and entertaining too.

                People die from facism. Many people. Are you a psychopath? How could you enjoy that?

                That is my pragmatic preference.

                That’s not even slightly pragmatic. It’s so far from pragmatic that I question if you even know what the definition means.

                Also, hella straw manning with the Political positions there

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            Both parties keep moving to the right becuase voters keep rewarding right by wing behaviour. You get the politicians you vote for

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            MLK worked with a Southern Democrat who previously voted to keep lynching legal in Texas. After MLK’s assassination, he shepherded the Civil Rights act through Congress and signed it into law as President. That same President went on to give the order to begin bombing Vietnam.

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            You see, you can still protest and make peaceful change with the mediocre and not fascist candidate. Good luck surviving with the fascist one. That’s what I’m arguing that the left is horrendous at pragmatism.

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      I’m not sure it would have helped. 2 Democrats haven’t been elected into office back to back since before the Civil War.