• WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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    18 hours ago

    If you DID vote for Harris, you voted for slightly delayed fascism. You didn’t vote for democracy, you just voted for slightly delayed fascism. I know, I voted for her. Democracy wasn’t on the ballot.

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      12 hours ago

      I agree.

      These useful idiots have been conditioned to think that a slow loss is a win, though.

      It’s a major reason why I will never vote for the ‘lesser evil’ candidate again.

      If the people getting mad at me because I didn’t vote and trump won, they should do something differently next election and run a candidate that is good, not just the lesser evil.

      Spoiler alert: They won’t do anything different and continue to blame the people for not “falling in line.” This is a song and dance that will last the rest of our lives.

      It’s a major reason why I will never vote for the ‘lesser evil’ candidate again.

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        10 hours ago

        I get your point and I agree that voting for the lesser evil is still voting for evil but what is your solution?

        The dems dont have a reason to pick a better candidate because they wont be the ones suffering under trump, its everyone else that suffers.

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          9 hours ago

          The solution is changing our culture. People need to value different things then put those values into action.

          The problem is that democrats are greedy and entitled, too. They’re not willing to give up their luxuries to help those who have less because they believe that those who have more deserve more, and those who have less deserve less.

          It’s why Bernie lost the nomination, twice.

          The dems dont have a reason to pick a better candidate because they wont be the ones suffering under trump, its everyone else that suffers.

          Great point. The useful idiots should be picking better candidates in the primaries. There are other options besides the lesser and greater evils. I’ve mentioned before though how the useful idiots have been conditioned to believe that a slow loss is still a win; it’s not.

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            8 hours ago

            Thanks, I only partially agree with you. While your solution is a good way, its also a long way. Culture changes are slow but people are suffering now under trump that wouldnt have suffered under Harris.

            Dreaming of a better future is awesome but it shouldnt come at the cost of the present. Honestly the us political system sucks and I dont know how I would choose if my moral wouldnt allow me to support either candidate.

            While I can respect your morality I can also understand that others are unhappy with the non voters because Harris is still far less evil than Trump.

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              3 hours ago

              Honestly the us political system sucks and I dont know how I would choose if my moral wouldnt allow me to support either candidate.

              I’m being the change I want to see in the world. Clearly supporting establishment politicians is not solving the problems that face us as a species, so I’m choosing to do something different.

              When the useful idiots get tired of losing to fascists, then maybe they’ll start to do something different, too.

              I don’t expect them to, though. It’s part of what makes them useful idiots.

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                3 hours ago

                What exactly are you doing differently? I am not sure if I missed that or misunderstood something.

                What I got is that you are not voting, which will change nothing to the better. And trying to change the culture?

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                  2 hours ago

                  Hey, if you don’t want to understand something then you never will.

                  I’ve been very clear up to this point and should not have to elaborate further. You don’t like what I’m saying, so you’re trying to pretend it doesn’t make sense.

                  I’m going to block you now. Once the bad-faith auto-arguments take hold, there’s no point in engaging further.

                  Good luck.