Yeah but thats not the self mutilation to kill off all emotions. Thats just denying a subset of actions and interests.
As I said it is exaggerated pretty steeply. There exists naturally manly men, including trans men, who are perfectly fine on an emotional level. To be manly doesn’t mean to be a walking husk devoid of all feeling.
Its still a legitimate issue, don’t get me wrong, I just find the wording really edgy, possibly slightly cringe.
See that’s just it, though, I explicitly did the apposite of what you just suggested. I disavowed disingenuine discussion.
If anything, it’s sad to me that you feel the need to label our enemies as mentally ill. I think a good way to approach societal issues like this doesn’t involve exaggerated labels and dramatizations to denigrate them as weak incompetents, rather we should acknowledge that they are human beings and the default state of human beings is to lower the standing of others and empower ourselves. We’re greedy and selfish as a default. We need to built systems to mitigate damage done to each other, just like the Civil Rights Bill did.
I did not label anyone as the enemy? You seem to be drastically misunderstanding this whole thing in that case. Men are victims under patriarchy, too. That is in fact the whole point of this post. The enemy is the patriarchy, a systemic structure.
Ah you are deeply equivocating two distinct terms. Men, as women, can suffer from mental illness. The patriarchy is a system, not some person or group, and cannot suffer from mental illness. Your misunderstanding of these terms is getting in your way.
Sounds like you believe only men can perpetuate the patriarchy, yet this is false. See here for a list of quotes from feminist voices expressing that women, too, perpetuate misogyny: https://lemmy.cafe/comment/9072032
And I’ll end the conversation here since you seem to have nothing better to bring to the table than downvotes. Please feel free to peruse my other recent comments, which all address similar concerns.
Yeah but thats not the self mutilation to kill off all emotions. Thats just denying a subset of actions and interests.
As I said it is exaggerated pretty steeply. There exists naturally manly men, including trans men, who are perfectly fine on an emotional level. To be manly doesn’t mean to be a walking husk devoid of all feeling.
Its still a legitimate issue, don’t get me wrong, I just find the wording really edgy, possibly slightly cringe.
It’s sad to me that you feel the need to disavow genuine discussion of men’s mental and emotional health as “overexaggerated cringe.” That shit kills.
See that’s just it, though, I explicitly did the apposite of what you just suggested. I disavowed disingenuine discussion.
If anything, it’s sad to me that you feel the need to label our enemies as mentally ill. I think a good way to approach societal issues like this doesn’t involve exaggerated labels and dramatizations to denigrate them as weak incompetents, rather we should acknowledge that they are human beings and the default state of human beings is to lower the standing of others and empower ourselves. We’re greedy and selfish as a default. We need to built systems to mitigate damage done to each other, just like the Civil Rights Bill did.
I did not label anyone as the enemy? You seem to be drastically misunderstanding this whole thing in that case. Men are victims under patriarchy, too. That is in fact the whole point of this post. The enemy is the patriarchy, a systemic structure.
I mean, Patriarchy is my enemy so if it’s not your enemy then I don’t think we can be friends, lol
Ah you are deeply equivocating two distinct terms. Men, as women, can suffer from mental illness. The patriarchy is a system, not some person or group, and cannot suffer from mental illness. Your misunderstanding of these terms is getting in your way.
As with any political ideology, the Patriarchy is represented by people, and addressing it goes in tow with the people who come to mind.
Sounds like you believe only men can perpetuate the patriarchy, yet this is false. See here for a list of quotes from feminist voices expressing that women, too, perpetuate misogyny: https://lemmy.cafe/comment/9072032
And I’ll end the conversation here since you seem to have nothing better to bring to the table than downvotes. Please feel free to peruse my other recent comments, which all address similar concerns.
Is this some kind of fucked up chatbot?