• isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de
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      then might as well elect someone who will do good things in other sectors instead of removing medicaid and deregulating industries

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      People are going to die no matter what. It’ll be different amounts though. One of the two has called for Israel to “finish the job” and constantly talks about how he likes what they’re doing. The other condemns it, but is criticized that the administration isn’t doing enough, which is fair, but also I know who I’d want to win if I lived in Gaza. I don’t think the people there care how good you feel about “keeping your hands clean” and acting morally superior. They want to live, while these people want to play games.

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        Have you considered listening to what they actually say as opposed to projecting your own beliefs onto them?

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          Have you? I’ve listened to quite a few. Sadly, dead people can’t say anything though. I hope they retain the ability to speak.

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              An endorsement is not the only part of support. Giving an endorsement removes your leverage. Why would they endorse her if she’s not doing what they ask? She’s the better option, but they still want more from her than she’s promising, so they should withhold their endorsement.

              Sometimes I think you people don’t understand politics or power structures, then I realize it doesn’t matter and you aren’t actually arguing from reason.

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                No, the reason you just laid out is literally my exact reason for not supporting her. Why would you lay that out and then claim I’m unreasonable or don’t understand things for following the exact same line of logic?

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                  Not giving an endorsement isn’t the same thing as wanting people to not vote for her. Giving an endorsement is the end of negotiations. Once you give it up, you’re done. Obviously they aren’t going to do that, but it doesn’t mean they don’t think she’s the best choice, unless they endorse someone else. Until they do that, it’s telling voters to do what they think is best on their own. What’s best for Gaza is obviously Harris being elected instead of Trump (and there isn’t anyone else it could be).

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                    There is zero difference between and endorsement and telling people to vote for someone. It’s literally the same thing. It’s pure idealism to think otherwise.

                    Have any Palestinian organizations told you to vote for Harris? Or are you, again, putting your own beliefs into their mouths while refusing to listen to them?

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      The elections haven’t happened yet. Withhold your support for Harris until she changes her mind on Gaza