• GracerGracCRAG@lemmy.world
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    The jews had been subjugated by the ottomans well before the 1900s, even after as well. The 29 massacure sucessfully genocided (formal definition) The Jewish population that had lived in that city for literally 1000s of years. There are no Jews left in Hebron, despite being 15% of its population in the 20s.

    Denying this shit has been going on for a 1000 years denies history.

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      The jews are not Israel but Israel definitely wants people to keep conflating them that way.

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                Unironically I’ve heard this talking point before, when shouting down a nazi at a rally at my school in 2014. You know the english spelling of Yishuv so I’m going to assume you know what demographic they’re from, and that that’s not physically possible. You can down vote me all you like, but at least I can say I don’t agree with nazis

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                  So its important to make distinctions between different groups of jews, and be aware of historical context, but only when those things are useful for defending the Zionist project. Got it. Thanks. And I haven’t voted on a single comment of yours beyond the first.

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                    I was refering to general downvotes towards stating historical fact, I’m not the one who conflated “indigenous” Jews to the ones literally running for their lives and making it sound as if they collaborated with the nazis. Do you really think I’m a zionist that’s laughable, I just know the history of the region

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      There are still indigenous Palestinian Jews in Palestine (and some are still anti-Zionist), and the “non-Jewish” Palestinians are for the most part simply the descendants of Palestinians who at some point converted from Judaism to Christianity or Islam.

      “Land without a people” my ass.

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        that was 15% of the population of Hebron (4th largest city in Palistine at that moment) at the time, you have to understand how sparely populated Palistine was in the 1920s

        but also killed over a hundred Arabs, and the Jews in Hebron were taken out of the area by the British, not driven out by the violence.

        blatant denial of history, they were driven out again in 31 and 36, and the British were the ones who killed the vast majority of Arabs.

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          you have to understand how sparely populated Palistine was in the 1920s

          So if there’s land that is not immediately occupied, that means it’s finders keepers?