The study they’re referencing is specifically 17-24 but they’re also severely misquoting it. Which isn’t surprising because conservative news sources spent a lot of time trying to use it to paint our youth as useless layabouts.
Yes, 11% are because of weight. However you have to very very overweight, like 300 pounds, before they don’t just give you a waiver and a weight loss program at the replacement company everyone goes through before basic. Same with convictions and alcohol issues. In that age group alcohol issues usually means an under age drinking ticket. Which is a waiver. Alcoholism, if it’s on your record somewhere, is waiverable after some years dry. Most people with convictions actually have a single drug possession charge which is also a waiver. Medical is a lot harder but there’s millions of kids who are ADHD kids and they just get a waiver for their Ritalin use.
The 70% percent number is strictly without waivers involved. Most of them are very easy waivers to get, and in the case of a draft they’d have a standing waiver for draftees. Nobody is going to be 4F for carrying some chub through high school.
thanks for that detailed explanation, i value that. thats very interesting. yeah, i was in military at age twenty, we had a couple of bigger dudes, and they all passed those tests you have after 3 months.
at the first 5 km march someone died though. heart failure, nobody knew about his heart condition. luckily, that dude wasn’t in my building. pacing was way slower after that incident. they were deeply ashamed about that accident…
We had one farmer buy that was, in hindsight, obviously abused by his parents, one 17 year old that became father, one 1,95 dude wanted to bash Noncoms skull in, we prevented that and saved him from jail time, same guy got back to base after weekend, his face beaten to a pulp.
they send him to infirmary as soon as he stood in formation, he looked like a humbled sad dog, personality broken. well, berlin train stations, you dont want start attidude with guys you dont know.
(noncom had it coming, this guy tried to kiss and touch me in the latrine, I was so confused, managed to struggle free some how. I whish I had found my anger, today I would have… i bet I wasnt the only guy who was molested)
and me with adhd in the middle, without knowing it.
i got ONE guy i whish I would have stayed in touch with. he called my roommate once, but they did not take his number. He was so friendly, humane and well meaning, I never forgot that.
well, military service is something. i am glad I did that.
The study they’re referencing is specifically 17-24 but they’re also severely misquoting it. Which isn’t surprising because conservative news sources spent a lot of time trying to use it to paint our youth as useless layabouts.
ah, sorry, i didnt look that far. i should have. maybe its because of obesity? also, iq under 80 is not draftable.
Yes, 11% are because of weight. However you have to very very overweight, like 300 pounds, before they don’t just give you a waiver and a weight loss program at the replacement company everyone goes through before basic. Same with convictions and alcohol issues. In that age group alcohol issues usually means an under age drinking ticket. Which is a waiver. Alcoholism, if it’s on your record somewhere, is waiverable after some years dry. Most people with convictions actually have a single drug possession charge which is also a waiver. Medical is a lot harder but there’s millions of kids who are ADHD kids and they just get a waiver for their Ritalin use.
The 70% percent number is strictly without waivers involved. Most of them are very easy waivers to get, and in the case of a draft they’d have a standing waiver for draftees. Nobody is going to be 4F for carrying some chub through high school.
thanks for that detailed explanation, i value that. thats very interesting. yeah, i was in military at age twenty, we had a couple of bigger dudes, and they all passed those tests you have after 3 months.
at the first 5 km march someone died though. heart failure, nobody knew about his heart condition. luckily, that dude wasn’t in my building. pacing was way slower after that incident. they were deeply ashamed about that accident…
Yeah we lost 2 people to mental health. It’s a big stress test and some people are going to have hidden things.
Absolutely.
We had one farmer buy that was, in hindsight, obviously abused by his parents, one 17 year old that became father, one 1,95 dude wanted to bash Noncoms skull in, we prevented that and saved him from jail time, same guy got back to base after weekend, his face beaten to a pulp.
they send him to infirmary as soon as he stood in formation, he looked like a humbled sad dog, personality broken. well, berlin train stations, you dont want start attidude with guys you dont know.
(noncom had it coming, this guy tried to kiss and touch me in the latrine, I was so confused, managed to struggle free some how. I whish I had found my anger, today I would have… i bet I wasnt the only guy who was molested)
and me with adhd in the middle, without knowing it.
i got ONE guy i whish I would have stayed in touch with. he called my roommate once, but they did not take his number. He was so friendly, humane and well meaning, I never forgot that.
well, military service is something. i am glad I did that.