• LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
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      Remember, they played an audio recording of him claiming to show classified documents that weren’t declassified to his workers who don’t have clearences.
      https://youtu.be/inVJF0Dr8mo

      He outright admits that the documents aren’t declassified, while knowing he was being recorded, and reads them to people not classified for the documents he’s showing them supposedly. (About 1:20 if want to skip is where he starts admitting to a criminal offense)

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      I feel like I’m being trolled right now. This cannot possibly be real.

      It’s real. The US is on an extreme downward spiral and MAGA plays violin whilst the country burns.

      The weird thing is I think we all knew the USA was doomed but I personally didn’t expect to see the downfall in my lifetime and not on a speedrun like it is now. Crazy times

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      The best part is that this was known long before he was elected the second time.

      Any one who goes “I was lied to!” is straight-up just an idiot who regrets that they had to feel a consequence. At best they’re just mind-bogglingly ignorant of how the world functions which is no excuse.

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          I don’t agree that they should lose their human rights. Dehumanization is a step too far for me.

          I believe there is some level of healthcare that is a human right.

          I don’t think “job security” or “retirement” is a human right, though I think we might be in a post-scarcity world (where anyone can “retire” if they wish) and we just aren’t acting like it.

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            You don’t think retirement is a human right or at least should be? Like “congrats on working but you didn’t make enough and no I don’t care why so I guess you’ll be working until you die granny!” You can’t bust in here like claiming a higher level of morality and then saying “let’s pump the brakes on the healthcare a little I mean let’s not go *crazy amirite?”

            Anyway, these people voted for everyone not like them to lose their human rights, down to not allowing them to exist while queer or be born in the country to immigrant parents. And so when they lose them too, yea it’s pretty funny. They are getting what they asked for, including the cruelty they cheered on and/or brushed aside, and are crying about it because they aren’t the big strong tough guys they fantasize about being.

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              You don’t think retirement is a human right or at least should be?

              In a post-scarcity society, no one should have to work. But, if there is scarcity, I don’t believe those with less-working-time should (important EDIT) NOT be forced to provide for those with more-working-time.

              I do think government-organized retirement is a good thing, but I don’t feel it is a human right.

              let’s pump the brakes on the healthcare

              I didn’t say that. I think healthcare in the U.S. is woeful, and hardly anything that is a human right is provided as a right. And, we should massively expand the availability of healthcare.

              I did imply there are some medical procedures that I don’t believe are human rights. Depending on who I’m talking to, we might even disagree whether a procedure is medical or not. Some people swear by their chiropractors or essential oil treatments.

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        As an American, I can tell you this is my first time seeing this… and I actively seek out information. Just joined lemm.ee and it’s already paying off.

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          if you literally did as much as google “trump document case” and find like, the wiki page, these would’ve been on it. There’s an entire timeline page for the documents case iirc.

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            In their defense, trump & co were doing their absolute best to flood the media cycle with outrageous shit at the time to intentionally overshadow all of this, and the media was following him like rabid puppies.

            It wasn’t that hard to miss the details of this at the time unless you were obsessively following the stories in side channels (like me), sifting through the bullshit and going down rabbit holes and reading 800 page court filings, and that could fuck up your mental health. Many people didn’t have the time or capacity for that.

            This all happened at the same time as the inquiry into J6, too, which itself was an unprecedented and massive story, overshadowing much of the other treason.

            That whole time period was mentally exhausting. I’m saddened and frustrated many people missed the importance of this story, but I do understand.

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          not being american certainly checks out.

          Not familiar with the bundestag debate, more so concerned about every single action the US executive branch taking being entirely illegal and having no standing at all, myself.