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    Even if you want to play Musk’s little “technically correct” game (and you probably don’t) it wasn’t public sector workers that ran the death camps and slaughtered villagers, it was the military. The military that was, you know, under Hitler’s direct command.

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      “Death is the most reliable form of sterilization”. An except from Conspiracy, a movie showing how the top level bureaucrats and SS officers arrived at the “Final Solution” based on the secret notes from the actual conference on the shore of a picturesque lake near Berlin.

      also this excerpt in which they discuss the mechanics of mass euthanasia. This shit should be the hardest stuff you watch all week. THIS is the kind of shit we’re fighting to prevent from ever happening again. THIS shit HAPPENED and it CAN happen again. To you. Your spouse. Your parents. Your children, nieces, nephews, grandchildren. The ONLY thing keeping it from boiling back up is our collective societal prohibition against it, whereby we surgically excise the malignant tumors and dissolve the cultural cancer cells clamoring for another genocide.

      “An assembly line”. If this excerpt doesn’t chill your marrow, please DM me because I want to study your mind. Imagine these cold, unfeeling men talking about the demographic housing your mother or daughter or spouse or you. Imagine the collective life experience, number of childhood smiles, acts of kindness, and raw tears disappearing at a rate of 2,500 per hour, with lungs and throats afire in a remote gray building under a dark sky.

      I would love to see him watch and then tell us again how Hitler didn’t “murder” anyone. He may not have personally pulled a trigger, thrown a switch, or pushed a button, but he’s still drenched in the victims’ blood. Musk will be, too, if he keeps strolling this path.

      Edit: I’m using the royal ‘you’ here and not explicitly referring to the commenter to which I’m attaching my comment.

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    And these agents “just followed orders”, so I guess all those millions deaths were just an unlucky accident…

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    Hey, i also think that Elon is a fascist but did anyone read the tweet? It also implied that Stalin and Mao didnt kill Millions.

    It said: “Hitler, Stalin and Mao did not kill millions. Their Public Service Agents did.”

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      They are all just waving away flies. Hitler and Nazis had huge problems with flies, So Hitler developed the perfect way to wave away flies, and since Musk has the same problem because he stinks so much, he has adopted the very efficient German way to wave away flies.

      It’s all perfectly innocent, and it makes sense so long you don’t think about it.

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      It was just an awkward hand gesture. But you libruls kept calling him Nazi and playing Jedi mind tricks so he decided to be one. THIS IS THE LIBRULS FAULT, THEY MADE HIM A NAZI! THIS IS THE LIBRULS AGENDA!

      Obvious sarcasm. I sell salt by the truck load.

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        Dear early 2014,

        Next year, David Bowie will be diagnosed with liver cancer. A year and a half later, it will kill him. It is absolutely imperative that it be found and treated earlier than that, when it hasn’t metastasized yet. Get him diagnosed and treated now. The future of the planet depends on it.

        Also, apropos of nothing in particular, here is a bunch of evidence that Donald Trump, the reality show guy who posted all that racist “birther” crap about President Obama, is a tax cheat and a scam artist, and works for Vladimir Putin. Get the IRS on his ass.

        Good luck, and may your timeline work out better than ours has.

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      TIL… I thought he was South African (not that I ever cared enough to research). So once Trump annexes Canada he’ll become a US national and be eligible to run for President? Pinky and the Brain level of planning there!

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      That’d be great, but I’m not sure how Canada is going to enforce Canadian law inside the US, and I imagine that he’s at least smart enough to stay out of Canada.

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    If it walks like a Nazi, talks like a Nazi, and heils like a Nazi, it’s a Nazi.

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    It’s about responsibility. According to Musk the ruling class cannot be made responsible for anything. Not even Mao, Stalin and Hitler for murdering millions. Also the workers are the bad guys, not the leaders.

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    Sure, Hitler only gave the orders to exterminate millions. That’s totally different…

    “I didn’t shoot that guy, I ‘only’ pulled the trigger! The hammer, firing pin, primer, gunpowder, and bullet all acted on their own.”

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        It is one of the many harebrained postulates with which fascist apologists and holocaust deniers throughout the years have attempted to use to retroactively weasel parts of the Reich out of responsibility for the murder of several million people, or usually just Hitler in particular.

        The logic is obviously completely spurious, but the argument generally goes along the lines of, “Hitler told his subordinates to ‘get rid of’ the Jews and he probably just meant deporting them or something, but instead his underlings decided to murder everybody instead. Besides, even if he said ‘kill em all,’ Hitler has no blood on his hands since everyone else did all the dirty work for him!!!”

        And he did say kill 'em all, repeatedly. I’ll leave you with a quote from the asshole himself, spoken to journalist Joseph Hell (what a name) in 1922 (i.e. well before the war):

        Once I really am in power, my first and foremost task will be the annihilation of the Jews. As soon as I have the power to do so, I will have gallows built in rows — at the Marienplatz in Munich, for example — as many as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged indiscriminately, and they will remain hanging until they stink; they will hang there as long as the principles of hygiene permit. As soon as they have been untied, the next batch will be strung up, and so on down the line, until the last Jew in Munich has been exterminated. Other cities will follow suit, precisely in this fashion, until all Germany has been completely cleansed of Jews.

        I mean, with how explicit that is, it’s pretty damn tough to dodge responsibility.

        Furthermore, there is a sliding scale of increasingly insane claims from holocaust deniers ranging from, “Hitler only meant to deport the Jews and his subordinates decided to kill them all instead,” to, “The Final Solution was dreamed up by Goebbels/Himmler/Eichmann/whoever without Hitler’s explicit approval and he had no knowledge of the true scope and nature of it,” all the way down to, “He was whacked out of his gourd on amphetamines by the end of the war and gibbering nonsense, so it was actually the responsibility of his generals and staff to ignore all of it, but they didn’t.” All of which is all quite demonstrably bullshit (see above).

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    If people have been telling you he wants to be a fascist dictator, but you aren’t quite sure you believe it, how does this not set off alarm bells?