And what is the difference between them winning and losing? I’ve been voting for them for years and hating it every time and getting nothing but excuses.
Of course you are. As am I. But that doesn’t mean I’m willing to just “give up.” Yes I’ll vote against Trump at all chance even if it means I’ll lose. Because I may not.
I don’t want a leader who is fucking exciting or a firebrand. I just want a competent administrator who treats the nation as something to be preserved. And that’s a hard sell against a cheap auto-salesman like Trump.
Republicans make things worse, of course , but democrats don’t or can’t make things better.
But those are the only two options. So you pick a democrat and hope for the best.
If the democrats are the best we can hope for then we are well and truly boned.
And how much longer am I gonna have to hold my nose and vote for an asshole I hate before they get enough power to mean I don’t have to?
Will I be dead before I can actually vote for someone I want to be in office? And even then will they have a stroke and start schlonging conservative dick?
Politics is a game designed to be so infuriating that most people rage quit.
You’re saying this in a thread about a Democrat who won. What is the difference of Chuck Schumer was there or not? It seems to be the same result either way.
Oh yes here we go another comment about if they don’t have a complete and total majority that they have no power whatsoever. What fucking bunk. He was elected as a senator by the people of the state of New York. He has a solemn and sacred duty to serve those people. It doesn’t matter if other people didn’t win election it’s still his fucking job. If he can’t fucking do it he should resign as should the rest of the useless parasites in that party who don’t feel they have any responsibilities left to the public.
What a useless party this is and what useless people who are loyal to it.
You kids act like there’s some sort of consolation prize. Is it because you all got participation trophies or something when you were children? You lost the house, the senate, the presidency and the f’gin SCOTUS.
What political power do you think you really have anymore? Whining on lemmy about how you don’t want to vote for a boring candidate? No wonder MAGA is winning. They f’ing vote.
The complete destruction of civil rights, a stable state, trade relations, diplomatic relations, the integrity of elections, the actual health if the nation, so on and so on.
Them winning makes it harder for the Chuck Schumer’s of the world to come up with excuses for caving to Republicans. Simply electing anyone with a (D) behind their name isn’t sufficient, but it is a necessary step one of unfucking the country.
Same. FWIW, I felt totally alone when I was complaining about this stuff decades ago, now even the most moderate people I know will say things about Republicans that I wouldn’t repeat on public forums.
Step 2 will never come.
Honestly, I don’t know if you’re right or not, but I do know that they will make it feel impossible right up until it actually happens, and I just don’t think there’s any better way forward than this (admittedly difficult) one
There’s no “they” doing it. It’s a fact of the structure of the government and 250 years of cruft. We can’t not vote for the democrats, no matter how bad they are, which means they don’t need to care what we think.
If you don’t vote for them… They will lose…
They’re not a hockey team where it doesn’t matter if you participate as a fan or not. If they don’t get votes then they don’t get political power.
And what is the difference between them winning and losing? I’ve been voting for them for years and hating it every time and getting nothing but excuses.
Are you fucking joking?
I’m frustrated. Democrats win and don’t get anything done because of republicans and then lose and don’t bother resisting the republicans.
Republicans make things worse, of course , but democrats don’t or can’t make things better.
Of course you are. As am I. But that doesn’t mean I’m willing to just “give up.” Yes I’ll vote against Trump at all chance even if it means I’ll lose. Because I may not.
I don’t want a leader who is fucking exciting or a firebrand. I just want a competent administrator who treats the nation as something to be preserved. And that’s a hard sell against a cheap auto-salesman like Trump.
But those are the only two options. So you pick a democrat and hope for the best.
If the democrats are the best we can hope for then we are well and truly boned.
And how much longer am I gonna have to hold my nose and vote for an asshole I hate before they get enough power to mean I don’t have to?
Will I be dead before I can actually vote for someone I want to be in office? And even then will they have a stroke and start schlonging conservative dick?
Politics is a game designed to be so infuriating that most people rage quit.
This is why MAGA is winning. Even they aren’t this stupid.
I’ve been doing the “smart thing” and voting blue in every election and writing y representatives and it clearly hasn’t worked.
So obviously the solution is to stop.
You’re saying this in a thread about a Democrat who won. What is the difference of Chuck Schumer was there or not? It seems to be the same result either way.
Do you know how Congress works? I’m trying to determine if I have to explain what a “majority” means or not.
Oh yes here we go another comment about if they don’t have a complete and total majority that they have no power whatsoever. What fucking bunk. He was elected as a senator by the people of the state of New York. He has a solemn and sacred duty to serve those people. It doesn’t matter if other people didn’t win election it’s still his fucking job. If he can’t fucking do it he should resign as should the rest of the useless parasites in that party who don’t feel they have any responsibilities left to the public.
What a useless party this is and what useless people who are loyal to it.
You kids act like there’s some sort of consolation prize. Is it because you all got participation trophies or something when you were children? You lost the house, the senate, the presidency and the f’gin SCOTUS.
What political power do you think you really have anymore? Whining on lemmy about how you don’t want to vote for a boring candidate? No wonder MAGA is winning. They f’ing vote.
The complete destruction of civil rights, a stable state, trade relations, diplomatic relations, the integrity of elections, the actual health if the nation, so on and so on.
We lost Roe under Biden’s watch
The Memphis police department got COVID money from Congress that went into the pockets of the officers who beat Tyre Nichols to death on Biden’s watch
We torched whatever credibility we had left on human rights issues by arming Israel while they carried out a genocide when Biden was president
Republican led states passed tons of voter suppression laws while Biden was in the White House
See my comment about the destruction of civil rights
Which has all happened despite me voting for them for the last 25 years
Bro wat.
Them winning makes it harder for the Chuck Schumer’s of the world to come up with excuses for caving to Republicans. Simply electing anyone with a (D) behind their name isn’t sufficient, but it is a necessary step one of unfucking the country.
Counterpoint: John Fetterman
Counterpoint: Kirsten Sinema
Counterpoint: Joe Manchin
Counterpoint: Joe Lieberman
Yeah, fair, but those are all step 2 problems. Like, Fetterman has been infuriatingly awful, but Dr. Oz would have been at least as bad.
We never get to step 2 because like clockwork they lose seats every couple years and we need those assholes just to keep a slim majority.
It’s been this way my entire life. Step 2 will never come.
Same. FWIW, I felt totally alone when I was complaining about this stuff decades ago, now even the most moderate people I know will say things about Republicans that I wouldn’t repeat on public forums.
Honestly, I don’t know if you’re right or not, but I do know that they will make it feel impossible right up until it actually happens, and I just don’t think there’s any better way forward than this (admittedly difficult) one
There’s no “they” doing it. It’s a fact of the structure of the government and 250 years of cruft. We can’t not vote for the democrats, no matter how bad they are, which means they don’t need to care what we think.