There is plenty of women who uphold these toxic ideas and reinforce these structures too.
It is wrong to consider “patriarchy” or any other social construct to be the sole responsibility of any one gender, and as long as we are in the blame-game stage, like @Tobberone@lemm.ee still seems to be, it will slow us down.
However i find it important to understand where this could come from. E.g. women, in particular mothers, who have been reinforcing toxic masculinity or femininity could be perceived as the major source for individuals because their mother has been the one reinforcing it. For other people it would be the father or other male figures in their lives, so they consider it to come exclusively from men.
Anectodtically my perception is that there is a problem with showing emotions in front of others in general in western societies, that is reinforcing toxic masculinity, but transcendents “patriarchy” as an issue, as many societies considered more patriarchal allow display of emotions both for women and men more freely.
Blame game stage? Perhaps? My view is that there are few innocents, but the terminology and discourse is very strict in it’s perspective.
Same as any other discrimination. There is always one part that has it worse, but it is never a one way street. Perhaps easiest to see with age, where each age group has their resentments against the others. Both are equally generalisations, though. Equally wrong.
The text: “men make other men feel like shit for having emotions”
This guy: “Wow it’s still clearly the women’s fault, stop blaming other people”
The jokes just write themselves here.
There is plenty of women who uphold these toxic ideas and reinforce these structures too.
It is wrong to consider “patriarchy” or any other social construct to be the sole responsibility of any one gender, and as long as we are in the blame-game stage, like @Tobberone@lemm.ee still seems to be, it will slow us down.
However i find it important to understand where this could come from. E.g. women, in particular mothers, who have been reinforcing toxic masculinity or femininity could be perceived as the major source for individuals because their mother has been the one reinforcing it. For other people it would be the father or other male figures in their lives, so they consider it to come exclusively from men.
Anectodtically my perception is that there is a problem with showing emotions in front of others in general in western societies, that is reinforcing toxic masculinity, but transcendents “patriarchy” as an issue, as many societies considered more patriarchal allow display of emotions both for women and men more freely.
Blame game stage? Perhaps? My view is that there are few innocents, but the terminology and discourse is very strict in it’s perspective.
Same as any other discrimination. There is always one part that has it worse, but it is never a one way street. Perhaps easiest to see with age, where each age group has their resentments against the others. Both are equally generalisations, though. Equally wrong.