• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    Switching to a “currency” that has never been stable and has a huge volatility problem? Sorry, I want that gallon of milk I bought in the supermarket to be roughly the same price when I need more next week than when I got it this week.

    It’s very telling that most advocates of Bitcoin are very happy to volunteer how much money they’ve made investing in it. That’s not how currency is supposed to work.

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      22 days ago

      To be fair, it is only volatile because you view it from the perspective of something you feel is stable (perhaps USD). If you instead viewed other currencies from the view of, let’s say, bitcoin then the other currencies would be fluctuating wildly. It’s a bit like Alabama and time: it’s all relative.

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        22 days ago

        I’m viewing it from the perspective of a regular consumer. That’s really all that matters to most people. That if milk costs about $3 last week, it will cost around the same amount this week. Changes will come, but come slowly.

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      23 days ago

      I’ve seen USD go up and down 30% compared to other “stable currencies”. Stability of BTC would come from adoption from a larger number of people, after the initial price spike caused by increasing demand.

      I bought some in 2023 for 30k and sold it for 60k over a year later. Right now it’s worth 100k. I don’t think people should by at this high a price range, it’ll probably be much more affordable in a year and spike again later before and after the halvening.

      At some point it’ll be too big to pump or dump, and doing so is already highly illegal in many countries. There’s basically no risk of a person buying in and having it decline to never recover.

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        23 days ago

        Yes, the dollar is, as all currencies are incredibly volatile in times of crisis. No shit.

        Bitcoin has, as I said, never been stable. It’s not even designed to be stable. Week over week, in general economic times, the dollar has the same value. You simply cannot say the same about Bitcoin. Again, this is why most advocates of Bitcoin are happy to volunteer how much money they’ve made investing in it.

        Unless you are a high-end currencies trader, people generally don’t talk about how much richer they are in Euros this week than they were last week. Because that’s not how currencies are supposed to work.

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            22 days ago

            Cool meme and all, but the fact that you yourself are talking about when someone should or shouldn’t invest in bitcoin just proves my point. That’s the opposite of stability. People don’t regularly move their savings from dollars to euros and back depending on which is worth more.

            Good for you for getting rich on your investment opportunity though. I’m sure that’s very nice for you.

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              22 days ago

              You couldn’t find the point if it was layed out cleanly before you, as I clearly explained it is not currently what it very easily could become, and also that it is virtually no long term risk even in its current state.

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                22 days ago

                Yes, I know, you expect a pyramid scheme where somehow magically enough people invest in bitcoin that it no longer is an investment opportunity and it becomes a currency.

                At which point, all the people who used it as an investment opportunity and don’t care about the whole ideology behind it dump it and switch to a different investment opportunity.

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                  22 days ago

                  Lmao, wut?

                  Either you don’t understand what pyramid scheme means of you think theres some tiered shadow organization promoting bitcoin. Either way you’re an idiot.

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                    22 days ago

                    It was a metaphor, but since you’ve decided that you can make credible pro-bitcoin arguments with memes and insults, I don’t think we need to go further.