• Cruxifux@feddit.nl
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    2 days ago

    This is the most obscene attempt to understate the US’s involvement in the war in Ukraine I’ve ever seen.

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        Not always, but it’s the fault of the USA far more than it should be. Like a pants shittingly stupid amount of the time. Almost as pants shittingly stupid as Americans who pretend that isn’t the case.

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          It’s USA’s fault Russia annexed Crimea? and now attempting to annex more?

          How’s that?

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                The Department of TrustMeBro is immune to FOIA and rarely releases documents.

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                  Yeah, the Ukrainian people threw out Yanukovych multiple times for being a Russian puppet.

                  Yanukovych argued in favour of economic modernisation, increased spending and, initially, continuing trade negotiations with the EU. He pledged to remain non-aligned in defence policy. However, his years in power saw what analysts described as democratic backsliding,[10] which included the jailing of Tymoshenko, a decline in press freedom[11] and an increase in cronyism and corruption.[12] In November 2013, Yanukovych made a sudden decision, amidst economic pressure from Russia,[13] to withdraw from signing an association agreement with the EU and instead accept a Russian trade deal and loan bailout. This sparked mass protests against him that ultimately led to his ousting as president.

                  How or where is the US involved in this? and why would they care?

                  Or you know Occam’s razor,

                  pressure from Russia clearly indicates they want Ukraine and are upset that their puppet was thrown out by the people.

                  Dude was jailing his opposition, and the people rose up against it.

                  That doesn’t sound like the actions of a person that has Ukraine’s interests as their primary goal.

                  After Russia lost their puppet, they invaded Crimea.

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                  Please point to us where in the timeline you linked is the evidence of the coup being backed by western agents. Thanks

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                  Where in the time line is the evidence for foreign western intervention, as is your claim?

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          Eaglestan has been known to start weird unnecessary wars, but this is not one of them.

          (I personally can’t really comment on surplus vs. new in detail, though)