Saw a post without noticing the community and commented a genuine comment with good intentions.

Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.

Original post:

My (removed) comment:

And yeah, the last comment was sarcasm.

I just don’t really understand why is there a community for shitting on Linux? Like I can get not liking it, and hating the Linux die hard fans, but it really is an amazing thing that is integral to almost all modern computing… Kind of like hating social media by having a facebook page for it.

  • Breve@pawb.social
    852·
    2 months ago

    It’s not a “community”, it’s one person making all the posts because I guess they wanted to make hating Linux their entire personality. 🤷

      • priapus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        112·
        2 months ago

        I’d argue dedicating your personality to hating something is much weirder than being a fanboy of it, especially when that thing is a piece of technology nobody is forcing you to use.

      • comfy@lemmy.ml
        52·
        2 months ago

        I don’t see irony there. I think calling this FOSS community ‘filled with Linux-crazed people’ is a stretch, but even then, it’s very different to:

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        or even just hating a niche product whatsoever. It’s not like Linux is EEE’ing or being invasive, so it’s hard to equivocate being a passionate fan to being a passionate hater.

  • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
    481·
    2 months ago

    There was a time when there was an annual “Linux Sucks” presentation that I liked because it was a roundup of candid, yet constructive criticism of Linux (and then at some point the person running that went off the deep end and started yelling about woke agendas).

    I wouldn’t mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken when running linux, and we as a community then try to fix them or find workarounds.

    But as others have pointed out, that community isn’t a community, it’s literally just one account hanging out by themselves.

    • drhoopoe@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      13·
      2 months ago

      I wouldn’t mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken

      But isn’t that every linux forum?

      • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
        11·
        2 months ago

        Yeah, but I think it can feel too much like a circle jerk around here sometimes. I get that people want to win over new users, but some of it goes too far I think. The fact is Linux isn’t perfect, and while no OS is, there are some critical things you can do on Windows that are still a pain in the ass on Linux. Some of that is a vendor/proprietary software problem, but a good chunk of it is just people being willing to overlook a thin layer of jank in their normal workflows.

        I think we’d all be better off to all acknowledge and clean up the jank rather than try to pretend it’s fine as is.

        • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          71·
          2 months ago

          To be fair, Windows has its own jank. As someone who is forced to use Windows 11 for work, I’m much happier putting up with the minimum Linux jank I’ve experienced compared to the Windows jank.

          If any of that made sense.

    • BCsven@lemmy.ca
      2·
      2 months ago

      There is a guy that is a Linux dev, that maintains* a list of what sucks about linux, its very comprehensive–but a bit dated. He alao has same for Windows. I will have to look for the link

    • madthumbs@lemmy.worldEnglish
      13·
      2 months ago

      " that community isn’t a community, it’s literally just one account hanging out by themselves."

      Is it though? Here’s a screenshot from comfy@lemmy.ml showing 2 other contributors (and this isn’t chat; I’m not here to ‘hang out’).

      It’s also new and trending. Even on Reddit’s r/linuxsucks, I was a prolific poster, and continue as such on r/desktoplinuxsucks.

      Maybe just admit being butt-hurt or mute, because you aren’t the intended audience and it brings you discomfort. -Thanks

      • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
        4·
        2 months ago

        Lol that’s actually hilarious. So but, why not comment on your posts too? Each post is just sitting there with an empty comments section.

        • madthumbs@lemmy.worldEnglish
          12·
          2 months ago

          I got into mostly posting rather that commenting because of the hostility of Linux evangelists / brigaders. -Posts can’t yield negative karma on reddit. My comment is typically in the form of the title or in the customization / creation of the meme.

          Maybe you’re still thinking back to when it was new; there are some posts from today (or a matter of a couple hours) with 3 comments already. It’s funny how people are criticizing it when there’s some adjustment (getting the right audience / parcipation) to be done in the face of a brigading / evangelizing issue from people it’s not meant for. I didn’t bring a community, and I’m not going to recruit for here from the reddit subs.

          It’s unlikely that anyone is going to come along and contribute anywhere near as much as I do. -I don’t see the problem with that. Progress is happening and we are continually on the trending lists. IMO it’s working.

          • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
            2·
            2 months ago

            I’m all for it. All publicity is good publicity in this space. Open criticism is the first step to better open software.

  • enkers@sh.itjust.works
    45·
    2 months ago

    Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.

    Sounds like they’ve done you a favour. Now you don’t have to see their random hater circlejerk community again.

  • spacemanspiffy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    391·
    2 months ago

    That whole community is just one guy posting memes. Some are funny but mostly its just odd how much he hates Linux.

    Whatever :)

  • Default_Defect@midwest.socialEnglish
    32·
    2 months ago

    I don’t understand why so many people take the existence of linuxsucks communities so personally, the reddit version has more linux users defending it than actual hate, but that one was more meant as a “legitimate grievances against linux” community as opposed to what the lemmy version seems to be.

    Just block and ignore like anything else. Its okay if there are people that don’t like the thing you like.

  • N0x0n@lemmy.ml
    302·
    2 months ago

    Hummm… Guess you’re to sensible? I mean I’m die hard linux lover for 3 years now and will never switch back to Windows… EVER!

    However, I found some of those posts quite funny !

  • radswid@feddit.org
    18·
    2 months ago

    My guess: the mod is sittin there posting memes on his gentoo-machine and laughing his ass of, because someone’s taking his community serious.

    • ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
      3·
      2 months ago

      Yeah… I am in my Arch comfort zone, till I was forced to move on as the newest kernels of Arch triggered kernel Panics at my Starlite V device. Even the LTS version (and for some weird reason the rt kernel was the only one working without panics).

      So someone said “Use NixOS, its great”… it felt cool at beginning, but sucked very soon as everything should be written into stone if you want changes on your system, and then reboot, because the switch command didn’t really trigger enough changes. Netbeans was without Maven till I rebooted. I thought I sucked at adding it properly. Frustrating it was.

      Then I tried MX Linux, just to realize that Debian has Ancient packages with many many bugs, like Okular having a broken Pinch-Zoom which is fixed after 23.31 or smth. Debian had version 22 of Okular. And I disliked that MX Linux used Plasma 5…

      Another one recommends Void Linux, Gentoo, KDE Neon, OpenSuse Tumbleweed. Holy fuck pls filter it by Systemd only Operating Systems. (But still cool having lots od Linux users in my university group)

      I finally decided to Install Kubuntu and actually… it feels like it will last forever (till a new Ubuntu Update comes in and destroys itself by its own Updating system. It never worked for me)

      • hangonasecond@lemmy.world
        1·
        2 months ago

        Gentoo has systemd instructions right alongside openrc through the whole installation handbook. Pretty sure opensuse is systemd also.

  • gmtom@lemmy.world
    16·
    2 months ago

    Unrelated but I got banned from the atheist memes community for calling one of the mods memes a boomer Facebook meme.

  • pathief@lemmy.world
    194·
    2 months ago

    It’s like going to a vegan community saying “meat isn’t so bad”. You’re obviously not going to get good responses.

  • electricprism@lemmy.ml
    151·
    2 months ago

    For this exact reason i feel the fediverse should operate on #hashtags and the user should subscribe to their mods who will mark content for exclusion and filtration.

    Meaning that instead of a ultimatum users can participate regardless of if bad mods ruin a community as per reddit /r/linux being ruined by loco mods.

    This fiefdom format where topics are arbitrated and drum headded by fief lords is archaic and antiquated.

    When the wrong man uses the right means, then the right means work in the wrong way.

    Its our job to create systems that prevent this as much as possible through good design.

    • WilfordGrimley@linux.communityEnglish
      6·
      2 months ago

      That’s how aether works kind of.

      It’s P2P/decentralised rather than federated.

      Anyone can make a community. With enough participation in a community one can become a mod. Mods can be impeached by vote of active participants.

      Anyone can see nod actions and anyone can decide to disable the actions of any mod.

      I love the system, I was active there before moving to Lemmy. I wish it had taken off/absorbed some of the Reddit fallout rather than Lemmy.

      AFAIK it is not maintained or at least updated much less frequently than Lemmy/ActivityPub.

  • brianary@startrek.website
    12·
    2 months ago

    It’s the same argument I’ve heard about the “complexity” of Mastodon: too many choices, which is I guess why people largely stopped going to websites outside the major social networks. Monopoly over competition, it’s like everyone is pining for a monarchy.