• sturlabragason@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3111·
    10 months ago

    I don’t know about you but I was just waiting for an excuse. I ain’t ever going back. It’s a brave new world for me, part of shifting my whole suite to FOSS. Leaving the old internet behind me.

  • Margot Robbie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2342·
    10 months ago

    What this shows us is that more people are joining lemmy, but even more people are either leaving or going into lurker mode, as Lemmy only counts people who have commented or posted in that time period as active users, whereas most social media counts any activity while logged in as active. You have to realize that people who use reddit as Google search results don’t usually interact with the content there and most won’t even make an account.

    On the upside, with fewer people, it’s easy to get noticed here just by contributing good content since you don’t really get drowned out here because of the democratic upvote based sorting instead of black box personalized recommendation algorithms. So with relatively low amount of effort, you can make sure your content is being seen instead of relying on analytics and metrics.

    The last thing to in mind that Lemmy is only one aspect of ActivityPub, and Mastodon’s growth is currently the highest right now because of the ecosystem created by the whale fall of Twitter, which indirectly grows Lemmy as Mastodon users can post directly to federated Lemmy communities.

    • LostCat005@lemmy.worldEnglish
      72·
      10 months ago

      I just got recommended this site after posting on reddit re: predatory algos and the necessary regulations needed to protect people and how algos have manipulated the UX so much its disrupted the originally intended purposes; ie insta has effectively become a marketing and advertising platform.

      So in response someone suggested finding alternatives to the popular social media sites and used Lemmy as an example.

      I have been loving it thus far - its old school reddit.

      this is my first comment on lemmy!

          • Coelacanth@feddit.nuEnglish
            4·
            10 months ago

            I can see the arguments for both, to be honest. Ideally I’d like to be able to see statistics for both. Active Users and Active Contributors?

            • Meldrik@lemmy.wtfEnglish
              1·
              10 months ago

              You can already see how many posts and comments users make. Isn’t that the same?

              • Coelacanth@feddit.nuEnglish
                4·
                10 months ago

                Well, as mentioned that is also covered by the Monthly Active Users metric that already is available. But in addition to that, I think it would be interesting to see the number of users who read and vote but don’t post or comment. Even though posting and commenting is the biggest part, actively voting is still an important part of the ecosystem.

                • Meldrik@lemmy.wtfEnglish
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  True, could be nice to see data on content consumers, and not just the content creators.

        • Ategon@programming.devEnglish
          10·
          10 months ago

          I changed the algorithms in programming.dev to take into account voters in the activity. Since stats are all calculated locally you can view any community from programming.dev to get the monthly active users including that change

          e.g. https://programming.dev/c/technology@lemmy.world shows 27.8k users/month on p.d which is almost as much as the value here for all of lemmy excluding voters

          • Meldrik@lemmy.wtfEnglish
            1·
            10 months ago

            That’s crazy! User/month goes from only 7.5k active to 27.8k. And that’s just people voting. What about people who only read a post?

            • Ategon@programming.devEnglish
              3·
              10 months ago

              Dont have access to those stats in the database so adding on voting is the best I can do

              Theres a post read table but its only people who have explicitly marked something as read and is way less than the post likes

              • Deebster@programming.devEnglish
                2·
                10 months ago

                Do posts get marked as read when you read the comments? There’s the x new comments feature, so something must be storing that timestamp.

                • Ategon@programming.devEnglish
                  4·
                  10 months ago

                  I dug through the code and turns out the post read table does store when its read (with number of comments when it was read stored in a person post aggregates table), it just only stores it for people from your instance so I cant get accurate numbers from all of lemmy (and why it seemed like there was a low amount)

    • Omnissiah@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
      30·
      10 months ago

      There seemed to be an influx of reddit users but probably didn’t like Lemmy’s own distinct user base (*nix users for example)

      I am kind of glad it settled down because I much prefer Lemmy over reddit

    • perviouslyiner@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      halfyear includes people trying out different instances; monthly shows just the one(s) they settled on

  • TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1702·
    10 months ago

    For anyone panicking, this is exactly like what happened with the transition from ICQ to AOL messenger, from MySpace to Facebook, from 9gag/etc to Reddit, and so on.

    Website makes a mistake, some people leave. Makes another, more leave. Each time this happens, more ‘main’ people of said website leave. Hell, I already saw PoppinKREAM here, so that’s a great start.

    So this is exactly how it always goes. The fact it is still here means it’s staying. Look at Threads, or Metaverse, whatever those things are. All dying or dead, barely lasted. Lemmy is still here, people are still posting, so just keep doing what you’re doing. It’s already working.

  • Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
    1253·
    10 months ago

    I don’t care that the fediverse has a ton of traffic. It may not have the most users, but it definitely has the best

    • Guster@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      34·
      10 months ago

      Very true. I’m still amazed how good lemmy is considering how small we still are.

    • Boozilla@lemmy.worldEnglish
      201·
      10 months ago

      100% agree. Have encountered a few jerkwads on Lemmy but hey, blocking works. The overall vibe here is 100x better than schmeddit.

      • InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        41·
        10 months ago

        Quick question regards blocking - how does it work exactly?

        When I block someone, I can still see their message. Just won’t get a notification. I thought, it would be blocked entirely - so I’m a bit confused.

        • Boozilla@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          10 months ago

          Might depend on the instance or client. I’m using Liftoff. They cease to exist for me.

        • Thorny_Insight@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          10 months ago

          When a blocked user replies to my message I get no notification and might just see “1 more reply” or something like that but when I click it it wont load. Only when I sign out can I read it. However I believe that the blocked users can still see my messages just fine. Same with bans. I can see all posts from lemmy.ml but they can’t see mine.

    • Pregnenolone@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      10 months ago

      I much much prefer the niche community here. Much less shit to have to wade through (see: came here to say this x 100000 per post) to get to the good comments and posts

    • seathru@lemm.eeEnglish
      41·
      10 months ago

      Exactly. I don’t need the most users. The internet was better back when it wasn’t everybody.

    • Toribor@corndog.socialEnglish
      31·
      10 months ago

      People complaining about a loss of users are the same people that will complain about performance issues next time there is a huge influx of users that stresses the infrastructure for popular instances.

  • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.comEnglish
    1154·
    10 months ago

    11 million comments this month. 11 million comments from people smart enough to leave behind the other. 11 million comments, likely largely from actual humans.

    Lemmy is thriving.

  • RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.worldEnglish
    795·
    10 months ago

    All the people returning and forgetting what reddit did and will continue to do. Then the next time reddit messes up, they will come back. 😔

    Edit: other stats seem pretty good though! Unless i am misunderstanding them.

    • LazaroFilm@lemmy.worldEnglish
      27·
      10 months ago

      The blue one doesn’t reset count every mount so it’s cululative. It means people come and go. There was a big Reddit rush and some people went back others got annoyed with the growing pains and went elsewhere. But the fact that it’s slowing down means it’s stabilizing to a dedicated community.

    • average650@lemmy.worldEnglish
      81·
      10 months ago

      I would prefer to use Lemmy, but it simply doesn’t have some things that reddit currently has. It could in the future, but it doesn’t have the user base yet.

    • Kidplayer_666@lemm.eeEnglish
      3·
      10 months ago

      The half year probably still includes all the Reddit refugees, maybe that’s why it hadn’t fallen yet

  • JadenSmith@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    64·
    10 months ago

    Here’s the thing though… I’ve been on Reddit for over a decade before Lemmy, and whilst there may be less interaction the interactions themselves have been far more sincere. People are more willing to engage, and even with this random comment there’s a chance someone would comment below.

    The community feel of Lemmy is something, at least I’ve found, Reddit had lost a very long time ago.

    Sort of a quality Vs quantity thing I guess?

  • nutsack@lemmy.worldEnglish
    652·
    10 months ago

    so there was a wave of sign ups with the Reddit drama, and then people got bored. the graph looks about right to me.

  • qevlarr@lemmy.worldEnglish
    622·
    10 months ago

    It doesn’t matter. I get all my news here and I can comment if I want. That’s enough

  • directive0@lemmy.worldEnglish
    645·
    10 months ago

    I dont get the hysteria, personally.

    I came here to escape the crowds, not migrate with them.

    • Toribor@corndog.socialEnglish
      133·
      10 months ago

      Once a site gets too popular it gets normified and it just becomes nothing but reposts, in-jokes and low effort crap.

      • rglullis@communick.newsEnglish
        22·
        10 months ago

        Reddit’s appeal was never in the popular subs, but in the long tail. Forget about the dozen subreddits with million+ subscribers, what made it interesting is the thousands of subs with a few hundred active users.

        • CleoTheWizard@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          10 months ago

          You also have to realize that Reddit would squash popular communities that weren’t as advertiser friendly. Which led to the larger (bad) communities.

  • deadinside91@lemmy.worldEnglish
    57·
    10 months ago

    FWIW Lemmy has fully replaced Reddit as my go-to toilet reading material, and I’m sure there are many other lurkers around here who don’t post much and thus don’t show up in these stats. The more niche communities are still lacking in content, yes, but these things are best left to grow organically over a long period of time to maintain quality. It was the same on Reddit too before the enshittification escalated.

  • The Picard Maneuver@startrek.websiteEnglish
    581·
    10 months ago

    For whatever anecdotal observations are worth, I’ve recently been seeing a huge uptick in activity from the userbase that is here. Maybe it’s been driven by posts like this one or memes about growing Lemmy, but people seem to be posting and commenting more than usual.

    • Carnelian@lemmy.worldEnglish
      29·
      10 months ago

      If lemmy has 100 users I’m one of them

      If lemmy has 1 user it’s me

      If lemmy has no users I’m dead

    • Ashtear@lemm.eeEnglish
      17·
      10 months ago

      I don’t know about huge but the data on the same page supports the observation on post quantity. It’s still steadily increasing.

      Comments might be currently on a stable trend.

      • maegul (he/they)@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        10 months ago

        It’s also a common finding from those comparing replies to the same posts on Twitter and mastodon: fewer but better replies on mastodon.

  • rsuri@lemmy.worldEnglish
    627·
    10 months ago

    If reddit taught me anything, it’s that a growing network isn’t necessarily a good thing.