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Cake day: July 4th, 2023

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  • I think Valve is completely hands-off when it comes to pro Dota now. They single-handedly organised the first five Internationals, after which they slowly and gradually started offloading more and more responsibilities onto PGL. That’s why it’s been a slow process, TI6 for example (considered by many the best TI of all time) was still mostly a Valve event.

    Dota 2 probably isn’t high on the list of their profit sources but I hope they’ll still give a moderate amount of care to it.

    I don’t think profitability is a major factor, to be honest. Valve gets enough money from Steam to do whatever they want, and they’ve demonstrated many times over that they’re not primarily motivated by making money when it comes down to what projects they choose to undertake - or not undertake, for that matter.

    I think they used to be really passionate about Dota, and that passion is just not there to the same extent anymore. Valve employees are allowed to do pretty much whatever they want, and over the years I assume the amount of people who want to be involved with Pro Dota has dwindled.

    There still seem to be enough people around that still care about the game itself, at least. It’s still getting updates and new content, so there’s that.



  • I’m happy Liquid won, I think the old HoN trio deserve it, I think Nisha really deserves it and 33 is of course a great player too. I’m glad the Liquid redemption story vs GG gave us at least one memorable story and moment from this TI, which otherwise has felt fairly bland.

    I’ve touched on it before but TI losing its magic is very sad to me. It’s been in decline for a few years already, but it’s more obvious now than it ever has been that Valve’s investment in Dota is just not what it once was. This was the first TI Valve was fully hands-off with - from now on its 100% a PGL product and I think it shows.

    I miss True Sight, it’s one of the best things related to TI. I miss seeing more of the games in front of a crowd (they even seemed to filter out the crowd noise?). I miss the Lategame with Pyrion Flax aftershow. I miss player profiles and video archive snippets (patience from Zhou!). I miss the All-Star games, despite them being goofy and sometimes terrible.

    TI is just another LAN event now, and that’s such a shame when you think about the heights of what it once was.





  • I was rooting like crazy for Tundra as it would have been so nice for me to have two teams I like in the final and I could just relax and not care about who wins. And it would have been nice to have a break from Liquid vs GG. And you have to give it to Tundra, they did really well to almost salvage that third game. Very impressive display by Pure again, as well as the supports clutching save after save.

    GG played well though, they’re good and they have been for a few years now. Can’t take anything away from them, I just wish they were more likeable. Much like Falcons I respect their skill but have a hard time rooting for them.

    I still think they will win it as Liquid choking in a final against GG is such a tradition I think the psychological factor will be huge here.


  • It may be the case that it wasn’t sustainable, but I doubt money is the factor. I think Valve is just less invested in Dota these days. Regardless of what is the reason, I miss TI feeling more special. I’m the opposite of you I guess, I miss TI being a huge festival of Dota. I miss the huge installations around KeyArena and Kaci talking to people around the Secret Shop. I miss the shots of people watching the huge screens outside on the grass enjoying a festival atmosphere. I miss the goofy All-Star matches.

    TI just feels like any other big LAN event nowadays, which is a shame.






  • Falcons are out, which makes me happy, but overall this was a fairly disappointing penultimate day of TI. I wish we had more even back and forth matches instead of straight 2-0s. Liquid continue to impress with Nisha playing out of his mind, they have to be favourites at this point. You can never count out GG though - especially in a final against Liquid - so I’m hoping it will be Tundra taking the second spot tomorrow instead .They’ve looked really good today and Topson pulling out Diffusal Sniper was an instant classic. Also blows my mind that Saksa isn’t on any team right now, winning TI as a stand-in would be quite something. Wonder where he ends up.

    I also feel like the production is a little… bland? Maybe they’re saving everything for tomorrow, but the crowd and arena and action in between games has felt lackluster compared to the halcyon days of KeyArena TIs in Seattle. I miss stuff like The International Archive, Remember When or even the superb Support Support. And matching the energy of the crowd in, outside of and around the arena in Seattle is a tough ask, I suppose. But I miss the amount of signs and costumes and Kaci doing the rounds.

    I hope there’s at least something in the cards for tomorrow.