• NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    We live in a world where money is Supreme. And we live such that if we tried to go strike or protest in some form, we would be out of a job and living on the streets pretty quick. It’s all by design.

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        Guy in my city is now a single eyed man after peacefully protesting at a BLM gathering and being shot in the face with a tear gas canister. What a world.

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      Yes. My guess is that, soon enough, just wearing a police uniform will be enough to end up on kill lists.

      Kind of like Colombia during narco wars, except it’s going to be everywhere, no matter what kind of cop.

      Cops will need to watch their backs even more when people have less and less to lose, and believe less and less in the ‘rule of law’ that constantly fucks them over.

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    Because denial isn’t over because corporations who make their money off things that make climate change worse spend tons of money to manufacture disinformation and continue to mislead people just like they’ve been doing for over 50 years.

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      Yeah. I’m in Appalachia where most everyone I went to school with believes whatever latest variation of climate-denial messaging their ridiculous right-wing media ecosystem spits out this week. Obviously a lot of money still funneled into promotion of these ideas. Watched a bunch die unnecessarily of COVID when that same messaging was telling them vaccines were more dangerous than the virus.

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    Greed.

    Until we start executing & incarcerating politicians & CEOs for ecocide, this will not stop.

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    Because corporations have managed to convince people that it’s an individuals responsibility to recycle to save the planet. Big corporations get fined pennies for destroying it.

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    Hey, I wrote my representatives. I vote. I do what I can to limit my fossil fuel usage.

    What do you mean it wasn’t enough? Must be some one else not doing their part.

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      You know, every time I see the phrase “No drop of rain feels responsible for the flood” I get upset. You know why? It’s not the raindrops that cause the flood. It’s the clouds. The environment that fosters the rain.

      Like, does anyone actually want to get up at 6 AM every morning and run out the door to drive an hour one-way in a machine that kills children quickly and the environment slowly, just to give up half of their waking life to a soulless entity that turns spirit and creativity into stolen labor value and burnout, all for the pleasure of continuing to do that every day for the next several decades until the stress inevitably kills you? I don’t know one fucking person who wants to be doing this shit, but as the rain is forced out of the cloud by the dropping pressure, so are we coerced into this life by the threat of starvation and exposure to the elements. Would that I could break the chain, but I am as helpless against it as the raindrop is against the pull of gravity. It’s so easy to toss pithy quotes at people while sipping from a bamboo straw, but it doesn’t stop Starbucks from selling a billion lattes a minute to people who are too tired and rushed to give two shits about the planet we’re killing in order to create that convenience we rely on so we can be forced to dedicate every last spare second of our time to the altar of capitalism. How the fuck do you fight that in any meaningful way?

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        I like to come back to this video of Anark - Hope.

        It is not coincidence that doing whatever one can do makes one feel powerless. While I do understand little efforts are like a drop in the sea, that just means we should begin to organize with others to work on creating our own cloud. It is worthy.

        To stop change, the first step the adversary will take is to discourage you to do it. Is like trash-talk in boxing. Just keep on fighting.

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          The issue is the extreme power imbalance. My ‘cloud’ will be a small space, surrounded by capitalism on all fronts. Like an oil field that’s not drilled, but all fields around it are drilled. It’s emptied anyway.

          You cannot be ‘apart’ from capitalism as even if you are, or try to be, outside - your position is still going to be defined as an outsider to capitalism and all the hardships that entails.

          And if you get a ‘cloud’ big or powerful enough - let’s look at history, what would happen?

          Genocide. That’s what happens. Every time.

          I believe in personal relationships. Trying to be in good relationships makes this mess endurable and, I believe, safest.

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            Yeah. But I mean, I don’t really care about more oppression. It has always been there. And if something is for certain I see it as having two options:

            1. Stay still and die
            2. Act accordingly

            To say the truth, I’m motivated both by my desire to live a happy and fulfilling life and see my nieces grow. And everytime I think if this is worth it, even if it is really small, I think it is. Because I see it as not abandoning myself, nor abandoning my loved ones.

            Change is possible, and if history taught us something: you can kill the revolutionary, but not the revolution.

            There are still many popular movements currently working in that future you and I are looking forward. So alone, you are not. Just be open to the possibility to give a good fight. For yourself and those you hold dear. And I remember the first thing I was taught in direct action: once you learn you can do something, it becomes hella easy doing it more times.

            I send you my best wishes friend, I want you to know I feel ya.

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    What a weird title for an article

    People still act like it’s not because they’re in denial

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    Still waiting for the moment the world wakes up like the dustbowl in the 30s or the pollution in the 70s. We’re past the point where it can be denied, aren’t we? I want everyone to come together and fix it. We’ve done it before.

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    I really hate that “we” in the title and article. Solidarity! “We’re all in this together!” Except we’re not.

    Study after study had proven that giant corporations and the richest-of-the-rich 1% account for the vast *majority of global emissions and negative environmental impact. Yet they’re not changing, certainly not enough. So I will use paper straws, be conscious of waste, reduce/reuse/recycle etc, but comparatively it will mean almost nothing…

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      I agree with the principle of what you’re saying, but you do have to consider what it is that makes them produce all the emissions and detriments to our environment. The products we’re buying. They aren’t just generating waste for the pride of it, it’s shipping and creating the products we’re buying every day. Your straws might not directly be causing a major problem, but the creation and shipment of millions of straws does.

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        Or instead of waiting for a bunch of singular entities to correctly want the correct straws we could just stop the straws, but somehow the simpler solution is infinitely harder than the former.

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    I believe it is essential to distinguish between “When are we gonna learn?” when talking about these points. It is not that “we didn’t learn”; we who understand or are very attentive to the ecological issues are a group of people doing something. Hence, the greens, in general, need to understand politics.

    The job of ecologism is only effective if you address root causes (there is a joke about trees over here). Exploiting non-renewable resources is not a choice made by individuals but rather a result of the societal structures that dictate our actions. Currently, those structures are hierarchical.

    So I’d like to use this occasion to invite my fellow ecologists and solarpunks to be interested in that spiky thing called “Politics.” We must address issues to push our creative minds to build the future.

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    The majority of people do understand. Of thouse that don’t, at least in the English speaking world much of it comes down to Rupert Murdoch. He went from running a small newspaper to the 71 richest person in the entire world by taking money from fossil interests to delay and normalize denying climate change. When the people who own most of the conversation are very well paid to make sure that any threatening proposals are treated as fringe ideas, well things mpve slowly.

    As the effects have gotten and harder to deny, the more he’s tried to slowly drag as much of the electorate as he can into a shared delusion so that any news source outside the bobble is so far from what they think is reality that when they actualy encounter realiry its easier for them to think it a vast consperacy than what it actually is.