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  • First step: Decide on the so-called desktop environment. A shortlist is provided below. For a new user, this should be decisive when choosing between beginner-friendly distros.


    Before going over to the next (and final) step, we need to set the stage for our contenders:

    • Versions of Linux Mint. Linux Mint has (rightfully so) become the face of Linux for beginners. Stand out feature would be how crazy popular it is; it’s a joy to look up your problem through a search engine and find solutions for it.
    • Images of uBlue. Where Linux Mint tries to smooth the rough edges of the “traditional Linux model” as nicely as possible, uBlue’s images can be referred to as revolutionary by comparison. The model strikes some (re)semblance to what you might know from your phone or chromebook. These images aren’t even close to reaching their full potential, but have already garnered/amassed a wide audience for how they (at least attempt to) solve some of Desktop Linux’ long-standing issues. Note that finding solutions for your problems might not be as straightforward. However, documentation is decent and they’ve been very helpful on Discord.

    Final step: Pick the distro corresponding to your preferred desktop environment. The list found below (ordered alphabetically) isn’t trying to be exhaustive on desktop environments.




  • Interesting. Have you also tried openSUSE Aeon(/Kalpa)? Though I assume you’re a KDE user and thus waiting for Kalpa to become mature before a test ride.

    Could you elaborate on what you didn’t like about Aurora and Bazzite; especially about how that experience made you more appreciative of openSUSE?

    Thank you in advance!



  • Options include:

    • Installing them through brew; this is setup, enabled and configured correctly by default on uBlue projects like Aurora, Bazzite and Bluefin.
    • Installing them within a container; be it though Toolbx or Distrobox. This is what Fedora Atomic initially intended (and probably still does).
    • Some users got a lot of mileage from utilizing nix to this effect.
    • If all else fails (or if you outright prefer it this way), you can always layer it through rpm-ostree.




  • lancalot@discuss.onlinetoLinux@lemmy.mlBest Distro
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    I don’t know why, but openSUSE has had difficulty garnering popularity overall (aside from Germany).

    A possible explanation, which also ties in to Fedora, is how both are the open source variants to corporate distros; SEL and RHEL respectively.

    Arch and Debian are more community-driven by comparison.

    For Fedora specifically, people couldn’t regard it as anything but a testing bed distro; especially if you see how back2back they were with adopting new technologies like PulseAudio, systemd, Wayland, GTK 3/4, PipeWire etc. To be fair, openSUSE was the first to default to Btrfs and auto-snapshotting with Snapper*. Fedora was also facing competition from industry darling CentOS; similar code base, but a lot more stable.

    Thankfully, since a couple of years now, Fedora has recognized that it’s not cool to expect your user base to be sadistic. And together with the (unfortunate) downfall of CentOS, Manjaro and Ubuntu - Fedora has amassed a very healthy user base. And with how quickly Bazzite is becoming the face of gaming Linux (at least until Valve releases SteamOS), I don’t think it has even peaked yet.



  • My go to back in The Day was just Ubuntu because I was lazy.

    So we have a bias towards Debian-based distros.

    it’s not been playing nice with my Zen 4 desktop when it comes to ACPI power states (no sleep, doesn’t reliably turn the power off when i ask it to turn off, etc).

    However, a newer kernel is definitely preferred.

    is also something based on a normal distro that most people write guides for because I am a smoothbrain.

    And finally, healthy access to documentation.


    Based on the above, I would not pick:

    • Debian Stable or any distro based on it. They ship with the 6.1 kernel, which launched only a couple months (January 2023) after the launch of Zen 4 (September 2022). I’m aware that access to newer kernels is possible. However, at that point, why even bother with Debian Stable to begin with?
    • While both of Debian’s Testing and Sid/Unstable branches have access to newer kernels from the get-go, distros that ship the latest kernel by default (e.g. Arch, Fedora, openSUSE Tumbleweed and their derivatives) are simply better for offering an end-user product.
    • Arch, Fedora, openSUSE Tumbleweed and their derivatives are primarily dismissed for not being based on Debian. Though, the fact that they’re more towards the rolling release side of things does play a minor role as well. By their very nature, they will change. Hence it’s less ideal for “set-and-forget” setups.
    • Pop_OS!’ team seems to be primarily focused on delivering their upcoming COSMIC DE. For this reason, the distro has been in relative limbo. Therefore, I can’t recommend it.
    • TUXEDO OS is dismissed for being relatively unpopular. Lots of other Debian(/Ubuntu) derivatives are dismissed for various reasons.

    Let’s get to the actual recommendation, Linux Mint seems to be tailor-made for your use case:

    • Based on Ubuntu, but without Snaps. While you can choose to use Linux Mint Debian Edition (LMDE) instead, that one doesn’t come with the latest kernel. So the recommendation is for (standard/vanilla) Linux Mint.
    • Their forums are full with up-to-date and (relatively) well-written guides; while the excellent ArchWiki is arguably better, Linux Mint isn’t a slouch either. Furthermore, as Linux Mint is very popular, you can simply expect to find solutions to most things that might come up.






  • Still getting the hang of Ubuntu, but I see a lot of comments on different posts in which a majority of them point to using Mint instead.

    Ubuntu should be okay; it’s not necessarily a bad pick. However, the community has been upset with some of its past decisions and (more recently) the implementation of its vision, i.e. their enforcement of Snaps. This has eventually led to our current situation in which it has become popular to hate on Ubuntu.

    Would the best recommendation, be to switch to Mint from Ubuntu?

    Personally, I’ve stopped recommending beginners to Ubuntu. This is primarily for how the above mentioned enforcement has lead to broken unintuitive interactions. However, if you’ve already started using it and are content with what you have, then the negative sentiment by itself shouldn’t warrant a switch.

    Though, granted, (I think) most Linux users have indulged in distro hopping; some have even made it their hobbies. So you shouldn’t feel bad about switching either. Though I implore you to practice best practices while at it:

    • Keep using your home base until you’re certain of the switch.
    • Don’t nuke your home base to experience another distro. Make ample use of live USBs, VMs and dual booting instead.
    • Try to understand the difference between the fundaments and the auxiliary when experiencing new distros; i.e., what is and isn’t possible for you to import to your home base without outright switching.


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    8 days ago

    Best Distro

    Needs dictate preferences. An objective assessment isn’t possible even on an individual level, as circumstances change over time. Linux Mint serves as a common starting point, with many users eventually ‘graduating’ to other distributions. The opposite is also true; many eventually return to low-maintenance distros like Linux Mint, preferring something that ‘just works’.

    I’m very curious of which distro users loves the most that they have it on their daily hardware?

    I daily drive secureblue.