Already looking ahead to the turmoil his re-election could cause, Donald Trump and his allies are reportedly circling an idea to invoke the Insurrection Act on his first day in office, deploying the military to act as domestic law enforcement.
According to a Washington Post report on Sunday, the drafting of such plans has largely been “unofficially outsourced” thus far to a coalition of right-wing think tanks working under the title “Project 2025.” It was identified as an immediate priority for the hypothetical resurrected Trump administration, internal communications obtained by the newspaper showed.
In response to questions from the Post, Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung provided a statement: “President Trump is focused on crushing his opponents in the primary election and then going on to beat Crooked Joe Biden,” he said. “President Trump has always stood for law and order, and protecting the Constitution.”
Imagine if the democratic states kick him off the ballot. He could get zero votes from 1/3 of the states in the country and still win.
Did you know you can with the presidency with something like 30% of the vote? Just win states by one vote each in reverse order of population until you get to 270 electoral votes.
A couple of these are the battle ground states though.
I actually don’t like this possibility. If something transpires where ALL states disqualify him from the ballot, fine. But if only blue states do, that’s just going to feed a resurgence of “the election was stolen from him” and I don’t see that going well either.
It’s better than a Trump win in the short term, but for the next 50 years we’ll have to hear about how the blue states “stole” an election from Republicans, and they’ll use it to justify bullshit of one sort or another.
STOP trying to get ahead of their whining idiocy. They will be saying this no matter what. Even if he wins…
That’s a funny way to say “stop worrying about giving fuel to the next wannabe that will rise up in Trump’s stead”
This problem didn’t end when Biden won in 2020, and it won’t end when Trump loses in 2024.
If a by the books court proceeding can disqualify him from the ballot in (checks notes) “the democratic states”, then by the books court proceedings should get him off the ballot in at least some red states too.
It would be very myopic to support an outcome where only the blue stats take him off the ballot. It would be taken by the maga crowd (and sympathizers) of “proof” of what he was saying all along.
My point was intended much more generally here.
You see it everyday where people are saying things like if we do X, Y, or Z, the maga crowd will do some horrible thing.
My point was that it doesn’t matter if you do those things. The horrible shit is still coming. Might as well do the things that might help because no matter what the maga idiots are going to maga.
Ah - on that we can agree!
The point is that they are a large group of abusers who only seek power and will never be happy unless they get a separate society of their own or take over this one.
The only way to definitively resolve the conflict is warfare at this point. The U.S. is irrevocably broken and always has been.
If he is convicted in Georgia, I think it is unlikely that he will be on the ballot there.
Is the trial going to get to the potential conviction stage by the time the election comes around though? I’m not up to date with the timeline of that case
Great. Should anyone bring that up, there’s the little matter of the election that was stolen from Gore.
Yes, but all we do is grumble about that. MAGA has shown they will take illegal measures even with zero evidence. This would certainly look like actual evidence to them.
As I said in another reply -
If a by the books court proceeding can disqualify him from the ballot in (checks notes) “the democratic states”, then by the books court proceedings should get him off the ballot in at least some red states too.
It would be very myopic to support an outcome where only the blue stats take him off the ballot. It would be taken by the maga crowd (and sympathizers) of “proof” of what he was saying all along.
I’ve never really understood why it’s necessary to take into account how these people may react. The law is the law, if it’s enforced in blue states and red ones decide to forego their responsibilities, fine.
Fuck 'em.
They’re going to whine about something anyway and they don’t much care if what they’re whining about has any basis in reality.
Well for one, it would be great if we could unify the country again without a civil war.
Sure, I’m all for that. I’m not in favor of indulging the fantasies of a bunch of angry seditious morons though.