What’s with all these comments saying Firefox is slow!? I’ve never noticed FF slowing down? I also can’t find anything online particularly damning (they all are pretty close in scores. No massive performance numbers for one or the other). I thought this was just a common misconception. Can anyone explain?
Also browsing the web with the uBlock Origin installed, will signifiy improve the speed. Meanwhile protect you from various bad stuff, adds being nonexistent. :)
Check this app & also tick all the boxes within its Settings.
“It works on my PC”
Firefox is slower on synthetic benchmarks compared to Chromium ones but I’ve never seen a noticeable difference while surfing sites.
I used to to think the android mobile app was slow. It’s gotten allot better though. Now that it supports uBlock I think it’s the best browser for Android.
I think there were some bad releases many many years ago, but right now Firefox works great. But unfortunately that reputation lingers, and people don’t like changing their browsers often.
People complain about Firefox performance and site compatibility all the time and I have no idea what they are talking about. I use both it and other browsers all the time and Firefox for me is the better one.
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It is a common misconception, they perform functionally identical across multiple PC’s and updates. People are just slow to change their minds.
Can you show me data showing that Firefox with dark theme, does a first load on a website just as fast as Chrome or edge? Same data point for with video buffer in frame? Pretty sure its noticeably slower in both scenarios with a dark theme.
I run a dark theme by default, first load of google.com in chrome is functionally indentical in performance as I said. Statistically there is a difference, probably only 0.1 - 0.25s max faster load in Chrome but it’s not reliable at all in the few tests I did quick (t’s 4am), so something that does not effect function itself, only form, makes me still correct in what I said originally.
@blotz @siriusmart I have like 32 gb of high speed ram and my browser would still run slow the last time I used firefox. This was a very very very very long time ago and I have like 400 tabs open but that’s why I have a computer with 32gb of ram to browse the web…
I’ve actually started using Firefox more because Chrome has been causing me problems. Recently downloading more than 3 files from Google takeout at a time broke Chrome. With Firefox I hit 20 simultaneous files with no slowdown. Chrome actually hung until my downloads finished. Made it impossible to work at all while I downloads files. Same issue in incognito. Firefox was great.
I recently built a PC and included 32GB of RAM specifically so I can have a hundred tabs open without any lag, never had a issue with Firefox.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TRUE.👍
I’ve switched to Firefox 2 years ago and I never missed Chrome since. Out of curiosity I’ve tried Opera GX a week ago only to find out that it is basically another chromium skin. Honestly I’m quite worried by the lacking of alternatives. 🦊 Be Strong Foxy✊️
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I do that (100+ tabs open at any given time) due to my work (research tends to take up a ton of windows) and because I’m too scatterbrained to focus on a single thing at once, but even then I find that Firefox is really good and arguably better than Chrome. Maybe Chrome has improved since I switched over, but Firefox uses significantly less resources than the Chrome that I remember
I have ~800 tabs open in Firefox, no real issues unless I flip through all of them or Tab Groups shuffles them all around. My desktop until recently was over a decade old and the new one is barely any faster.
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Ever since firefox switched to quantum it’s been great. I would say it outperforms chromium under typical circumstances.
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I can confirm, the problem is, when you have 500+ tabs, you dont know what you actually have opened.
I only have three extensions - uBlock Origin, a 3rd party password manager, and SponsorBlock. A fairly minimal setup with only the things I need. Even the Return YT Dislikes extension is not as necessary as people would think.
I’ve had 5k+ tabs open at some points, because I just don’t close any of them, and I often middle click as I want to navigate back to the page I was at. Additionally, a lot of sites break the back button, like collapsing comments re-expanding, or it loads slowly and I wanted to look at it quick. Organization is pretty nice with Tree-Style Tab for Firefox.
Every few months I purge all of my tabs, but for the most part, I just don’t care when I have 32 GB of RAM.
For years Firefox on Windows had this weird random bug for me where audio just would not work at random times. I tried every fix imaginable. I spent hours crawling the internet trying to find a solution. Couldn’t fix it. I’ve used it on Linux but not on Windows for a few years now; I’m going to be doing a fresh install of Windows on my computer soon, so we’ll see if the bug finally disappears then.
You sound like someone that doesn’t open 200+ tabs of furry adult imagery on e621 while playing processor intensive games.
I mean… I’m obviously not that person either, but it would be cool to have the RAM to support it or the correct web browser if I was that type of person. But I’m not. But having that capability would be nice (not because I need it).
…I don’t look at furry porn.
I run at 16GB of RAM and have 40+ tabs open 24/7. There are zero RAM issues, you need to plug your leaks.
No cap ong
32GB of RAM is less than $50, I just built a new PC, and it was the easiest upgrade I made to my build, regardless of what you put in your tabs
32GB of RAM is less than $50
Cool, now how much is it outside “the US and maybe select parts of Europe where it’s close enough”? Because not all the world uses dollars, and certainly not US dollars.
Probably depends on where you are, how much is it for you?
It ultimately doesn’t matter where I am from. I’m just trying to highlight the fact that not all the world is the US.
I’m relatively familiar with the global population distribution, but not at all familiar with the pricing differences. It’s the price of RAM drastically different outside the US?
Bojler ?
I have actually always found Firefox to perform better. Especially compared to the RAM whore, Chrome.
I still remember version 2 of Firefox. It was an awesome feeling to install. Even today, just using Firefox still feels like I’m doing to right thing.
I think there is nothing like it. It’s not perfect but it’s damn good still.
Firefox is indeed amazing but since chrome is so widespread a lot of sites primarily focus on supporting that - and thus i cant always use firefox. its a bit annoying
Librewolf, icecat, qutebrowser, iceraven, surf… are not chromium-based.
Qutebrowser is chromium-based, and barely anyone uses icecat since the modern web heavily relies on JS, iceraven is a Firefox for Android fork, which could maybe have like 50 users and librewolf is unusable for daily usage because of RFP (resist fingerprinting worsens a lot of sites that rely on canvas). (This is just my opinion)
I use Librewolf on a daily basis. (With disabled FPR)
FPR is the main selling point of librewolf though
Yeah, it’s a lot better if you disable RFP, but it still wouldn’t save my passwords and enabling Firefox Sync isn’t accessible. Again, it’s just my opinion.
Saving your password in your browser is a really really bad idea, use a password manager instead, like keepassxc (desktop), keepassxd (android).
Agree, but I use Bitwarden. I prefer it because it syncs my passwords from pc with my phone.
Same. But self-hosted with vaultwarden on my raspberry pi.
Very true !! For me Enpass On Linux pop-os and on my Pixel running graphene-os Perfect Enpass basically big database with more then just passwords Contacts, notes, files …😊
I think you could enable Firefox Sync from the settings
first of all, this meme gets posted a lot. second, but more importantly, the format should be reversed. in this scene of the film, Peter Parker sees clearly without glasses, and blurred with glasses, coz he’s been bitten and his eyesight is restored. /flies away
But the point is that they may seem different but really all are using the same engine. So the order is correct.
Didn’t the memes sub on Reddit end up adding a rule that only allowed original memes (that people have “handmade” themselves), to avoid excessive reposts? Heh.
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Do you know of any vi extensions or configs I can look at for Nyxt. The OOB experience isn’t great, but I see the potential. EDIT: Also tree tabs if possible
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Thanks. I’m not so much interested in tree tabs for switching around, but to bulk close tabs based on origin. Basically to bulk delete tabs based on how they were created. But it seems flexible enough.
Multi-Account Container with proxy support is a killer feature for me. I keep Brave as fallback just in case for PWAs.
Same. Containers are what Firefox has and chrome just doesn’t.
Edge used to be unique,but then they just copied chromium… It had much smaller scrolling which was great on touch screens. Now I have no reason to use it.
opera also used to maintain their own browser engine if i remembered correctly, but they all just dipped
Opera did have its own engine; it was a proprietary one named Presto.
Opera is also Chinese Spyware…
Proof?
Edit: I used to use it years ago and somebody I know is considering switching from Chrome to it and I’ve not heard anything about this.
Opera is owned by a Chinese company, and China companys need to suck their governments balls wich is common knowledge. Also its all chromium Anyway. Use Firefox.
So it is like browsers out of the USA then with their secret (company is not allowed to tell anyone about it) data draining laws?
On the flipside, atm Edge seems to be the better Chromium choice (if you don’t have a Microsoft hate boner).
Let’s be clear: it’s a very good browser, very HTML5 compliant, and perhaps one of the best browsers…
…Assuming you don’t care about insane amounts of spyware - AND not having a lot of really cool browser add-ons (those having spyware and memory leaks is a separate topic, but I want to acknowledge these problems).
Edge makes more calls home per second than any other piece of software on my computer. I looked at my live log and it was a literal stream. Nearly every single action you do is tracked and sent… (waves hands confusingly up in the air in circles) …somewhere. Likely Microsoft, but I really don’t know.
Almost all of Windows is like this too. I hate it so much. There’s just no great way to have nice things right now.
@SCmSTR Linux, Firefox, Lineage OS
Firefox is beautiful
I really like Vivaldi. Their management even seems kinda ethical.
I don’t know if it’s just ethical or their unwillingness to improve but they have left a lot of issues open for several years.
Issues like -
- Auto dark mode for web pages - they removed it when Chrome for Android dropped it, but never picked it back up. All other browsers have it now
- Geolocation on Mac. Their argument is weird for this and the issue is still there for over 5 years
- A lot of changes nobody asked, something like address bar auto complete, which they forcefully changed to top sites without even giving options
- Slowdown because of bloat - while a lot cliam that it isn’t the case, Vivaldi has brought my M1 Mac to its knees, even with brand new instace. Again only one to do so
absolutely proprietary
“Vivaldi browser is part open-source, part closed-source” They can make it sound great, but in the end its not. https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-open-source/
Meanwhile on iOS, bottom image is all Safari.
Hopefully not for much longer…
deep fried meme
Then there’s Safari on iOS….