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  • Chais@sh.itjust.works
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    Fairphone 4.
    I don’t play demanding games on my phone, so I don’t need some overpriced flagship device.
    What I do need is a consumer-replaceable battery and as many other parts as I can get. This means I can get replacement rear- and front-facing camera, earpiece, loudspeaker, USB port, display, back cover and of course battery. All from the original vendor and replacement can be done by me, armed with only a small screwdriver and maybe a spudger for the display.
    Over all this is probably one of the most repairable phones and I bought it hoping it will last me 10 years.

    I’m currently running Iodé (Android) but hope to switch to PostmarketOS in the future. Maybe with a detour via Ubuntu phone.

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      I wish they brought it to Canada. I already went with a Framework laptop for reparability and would easily jump at the opportunity to buy a fairphone.

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        I imported mine from the last visit at home. Had to check if it works with Koodo first, too.
        And next laptop will definitely be a Framework.

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          Absolutely love it. I had an issue with one of the lights on the keyboard, and they sent a new keyboard, which took maybe a minute to replace. Such a smooth, easy repair process. Any other laptop would have been too inconvenient to fix/return.

          It’s not a gaming machine, but you can use an external GPU or wait for the 16" model to come up later this year, which apparently supports a dedicated GPU.

          Lots of new options came out since I got mine, including a Chromebook version, AMD versions, etc. When my wife’s laptop dies, I’ll be replacing it with a Framework.

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            Thanks!

            I’d love to get one. I know they are trying to keep everything compatible, but I know one day they’ll need to introduce a v2 to make the chassis slimmer or something, and I feel like I should wait for that.

            I know I will get so deep into the ecosystem just for them to release a v2 and not be able to upgrade my components anymore.

            I mean it’s just inevitable. There’s no way for them to make progress if they are locked into a very specific form factor forever, and I do think the current framework laptops look straight out of 2008.

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      I am very tempted to buy a fair phone. Unfortunately I do play a lot of demanding stuff on my phone occasionally so right now it’s not the best option for me…

      But I’m hopeful for the future. Someday fair phone will be able to get a phone that is more capable. And I’m jump in no regrets.

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      I am very tempted to buy a fair phone. Unfortunately I do play a lot of demanding stuff on my phone occasionally so right now it’s not the best option for me…

      But I’m hopeful for the future. Someday fair phone will be able to get a phone that is more capable. And I’m jump in no regrets.

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      I am very tempted to buy a fair phone. Unfortunately I do play a lot of demanding stuff on my phone occasionally so right now it’s not the best option for me…

      But I’m hopeful for the future. Someday fair phone will be able to get a phone that is more capable. And I’m jump in no regrets.

  • Joe_0237@lemmy.ml
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    Apple might turn evil? They have always been evil, and goole is evil to. Try a free android distro like CalyxOS, GraphineOS, LineageOS or /e/OS. This is not a complete list.

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    Pixel 7. I bought it with the intention of flashing it with Graphene OS or something along those lines but I enjoy the Pixel features so much that I’ve left it stock.

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    A pixel 7a with graphene OS. It’s a myth that iOS is more secure than android btw. Both are locked down enough to protect against most threats.

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      Either one protects you from outside threats, but Android does allow you to do more damage on your own.

      If you’re smart enough to not install shady apps and give them the rights to absolutely everything, it doesn’t matter which one you use, but if your parents or grandparents are getting up there in age and are prone to just clicking on things that look like they should be clicked on, iOS might be safer for them (Android’s workflow for installing apps from untrusted sources is just too simple IMO).

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        I’m a dev / data engineer. Often I hear the argument of, “but Android allows you to…”

        I don’t want to. Doesn’t matter what the end of the sentence is, I don’t want to. I love tinkering, but not with my phone. :D

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          Same tbh. I’m a backend dev. I love tinkering. I have a desktop PC to tinker with, if I fuck up my Gentoo install, I’ll just boot into Windows or use my Macbook till I get it fixed. If I fuck up the software on my phone, I won’t be able to take phone calls for probably a couple of hours (if it’s a simple fuckup) to like half a day or more if I manage to fuck up the recovery or something.

          Ends up being that you need a secondary phone to tinker with, but I have little use for two phones, so I don’t keep them around much, I’d rather let someone else use my old phones because I don’t usually break them.

  • mbrx@vlemmy.net
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    Fairphone 4 since I like the ethics of the phone (environmental, worker conditions etc) and since I can replace parts of it myself. eg swapping battery or even the screen is trivial and cheap. Good enough performance for me but I’m not running anything special.

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      I wish they would expand to the US market. I get that they have plenty of trouble scaling to the EU market already, but I’m itching to have the benefits of a Fairphone.

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          Nope, The Netherlands. I can see why they would want to try to do a good job in the EU market before expanding, but it’s been ten years and no signs of expanding. In the US there is the Librem 5, though it is under severe backorder right now.

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      A German using a French OS on a Dutch phone; why do I hear Ode an die Freude in my head? ;)

      AFAICT iodeOS is LOS+µG with some sane default apps from F-Droid or is there something more to it?

  • any1th3r3 [he/him]@beehaw.org
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    Pixel 6 Pro running GrapheneOS, which I got a couple months ago. Pixel phones are the only ones compatible with GrapheneOS, otherwise I would’ve kept my Samsung phone tbh

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      So I know I’m in the minority not really caring all that much about the whole Google ecosystem, I enjoy it and how everything stays connected, I’m not necessarily on a crusade to prevent all data tracking on myself and all of that.

      I have a Pixel 6 Pro as well and looks like I’m gonna wait until the 9 pro to upgrade again if possible, my 6 pro is over a year old and still showing no signs of stopping, still plenty of power for everything I need it for and beyond. Is there anything beyond de-googling that GrapheneOS provides? Can I stay google-ified while running it? Just trying to see what kind of benefits it provides other than de-googling

  • MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml
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    Pixel 6. I got it because I got a good deal on one and I needed a phone quickly. I also wanted a phone from a popular enough model so that I would be able to get parts for repairs.

    I won’t even consider buying an iPhone since I can’t install apps that aren’t from Apple’s store, and most of the apps I use are from F-Droid and I generally hate all ads.

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    I hate all mobile operating systems because none of them is able to provide me the level of control I have on my Linux desktops and laptops. But there’s nothing I can do about that, so, at least, I bought the best phone on the market - S23 Ultra. It’s a lovely device, I just dislike Google. Thinking of de-googling it somehow. F-Droid and Galaxy Store can work as Play Store replacement but I still need Google Pay and so on :/

    If only Ubuntu Phone wasn’t canceled.

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      LineageOS for microG might be what you’re looking for. It is a compromise to give you the minimum amount of google while keeping the functionality you want. It features “fake” play services, which allow you to use banking apps and such while not actually running google. Itcomes with privileged F-Droid as your standard source for apps. I’m using it since 2019.

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        Thanks, I’ll check this. I’m worried about s-pen functionality and the support provided (the official ROM has 4-5 years of updates) but I’ll look into it.

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          I’ve been on the same boat. Luckily someone on XDA had made the stock rom googleless and it’s been working great. Im not using that gone anymore though (it was either my GSIII or my GS7).

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        But how do I pay then? I don’t even take my wallet with me and I don’t have a physical VISA anymore. Maybe Samsung Pay could work but it’s not supported in my country.

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        But how do I pay then? I don’t even take my wallet with me and I don’t have a physical VISA anymore. Maybe Samsung Pay could work but it’s not supported in my country.

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          It’s pretty easy to get your bank to send you a new physical card. If you don’t have a wallet anymore, then just carry the card, or get an ultra thin RFID blocking wallet.

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      If you are willing to buy a pixel from a store that resells them you’d evade paying google. You can get GrapheneOS which IS a very secure OS … They have a feature called Sandboxes Google Play which is compatible with overwhelming majority of apps compared to MicroG. I think you’d really like what grapheneOS has to offer

      Please know that Sandboxed Google Play does not use any additional privileges and makes googles apps run in sandbox like any random app you install would.

  • wecalledhimmavis@beehaw.org
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    Pixel 4a because it was the newest cheapest Pixel at the time and I wanted to run GrapheneOS. Ended up switching back to Calyx and eventually to stock after I realised I was sacrificing a lot more convenience than I wanted.

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      What is your plan for when the EOL for stock updates comes (around this august iirc)?

      I think I might just flash LineageOS.

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        probably start shopping for a new phone. The battery is dying and I’m not sure if it’s worth repairing.

        Does LineageOS not go EOL at the same time? I thought they followed the security update cycle

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          I’m an advocate for fixing if you can, the phone still feels as snappy as it used to and I really like it’s size and weight.

          A new battery is as cheap as 7$ on AliExpress.

          Actually I am not sure what determines EOL for custom ROMs… Maybe it has to do with the firmware not being updated by Google? Although I read somewhere it has something to do with the kernel version - which I’m not sure why you can’t update?

          Maybe someone with more knowledge on the topic can enlighten me.

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    I recently picked up a Fairphone 4. I got it mostly because of the removable battery and easy repairing, but it’s nice to know I’m supporting a manufacturer that cares about sustainability.