• drewisawesome14@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The Palestine vs Israel argument is a legitimate one that needs to be addressed.

    However, Hamas is nothing more than a terrorist organization that uses the struggles of the Palestinians to stay in power much like how the Israeli government often does the same to their own people.

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      1 year ago

      No, Hamas is palestines only means of fighting their oppressors. The US has made military conflict impossible for Palestine to win, and so they resort to harming whichever Israeli they can find.

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            1 year ago

            They would not have to control it if there weren’t terrorists inside.

            In addition, how is it possible that whilst israel managed to build systems for desalination, Gaza managed to build a complete dependence on others?

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              1 year ago

              You have that backwards, there would not be terrorists in Gaza if not for Israeli oppression. And that happened because Israel destroyed everything Gaza built.

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                1 year ago

                Really? Israel left gaza in 2006. They left there farms, etc. In addition, Gaza received billions in support and all they managed to do it stealing it and creating bombs which they shoot at Israel.

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                  1 year ago

                  Israel has been laying siege to Gaza for 30 years. Claiming they left is wildly ignorant of reality. Israel limits the number of calories going in, to keep Gazans at near starvation levels. Israel has also prevented any public works from being made. They literally bombed every bakery in Gaza.

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                    1 year ago

                    There were literally billions sent to Gaza in last 10 or so years and still it’s one of the most hostile places in the world. In addition, they had 70 years to form a state that can keep its citizens alive.

                    Today there is a war there, so logically both sides are doing atrocities that create a humanitarian crisis. One side takes hostages, other responds with limited water supply. This is unfortunately the truth when it comes to living during a war.

                    In addition, how would you expect participants in a war to be kind to each other?