Well if you’re going to be prosecuted for peacefully protesting, you might as well do it non-peacefully.
History books are going to be wild.
Early 1900’s… it’s going to be about Nazi’s and the SS.
Early 2000’s… it’s going to be MAGA and ICE.
People try to kidnap you, you shoot em, right. I think it’s Time to start shooting.
anyone who makes that decision is, consciously in the moment, understanding their life is over.
ICE while in practice is acting like a secret police for the purposes of deporting undesireables of the regime, is still a federal police force, and a LOT of police are angry, trigger happy or bloodthirsty cokeheads.
you shoot at them, they’re killing you. end of story.
The fate they are kidnapping you for could be worse than death (CECOT)
“My investigation is balanced and impartial, and I have received input from the federal agencies involved in making the arrests, all the more reason, it seems to me, to conclude that the ICE spokesperson’s attack on my integrity was misguided,” [Hingeley] said. “I leave it to my constituents to decide who was ‘posturing for the media.’”
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Reading the article, I want to show it to my family immediately. They said the comparison to 1933 Germany is exaggerated.
I truly do not understand what it will take for my fellow Americans to become aware.
I assume that at this point, an unhealthy amount of Americans find politics distasteful and they try their best to avoid it — people who are just as affected by it as I am!
I’m not sure why you think they aren’t aware.
When this happens, be certain to record and remember any identifying characteristics (tattoos, height, weight, hair color, hair length, clothing, etc…) of the kidnappers. Spread the info far and wide. They’re wearing masks and hiding their identities because they KNOW they’re doing something wrong.
And the same facial recognition tech that they use against citizens also works against them. They cover their faces because they don’t want to be doxxed and held responsible for their actions.
Hold on, so let me get this straight, they’re being arrested for interfering with a kidnapping? Because the officers were in plain clothes, did not identify themselves, and one of them was wearing a balaclava. Mf, you could be anybody. Fuck that. There’s a number of states where, if you’re being stopped, the officer must produce some kind of proof of their status as a law enforcement officer if asked. Ofc, that was before we were in the dictatorship. Now, cops get the choice between identifying themselves and possibly getting their family members to launch a GoFundMe page.
You’re looking at it the wrong way.
It doesn’t matter who’s on the right side of the law. They don’t care if they lose this case.
They’re trying to make ordinary citizens fearful of speaking up or calling them out. When they come to take your neighbors away they want you to look the other way because you don’t want to get involved.
Honestly, it’s horrifying.
As is often the case, the behavior they are telling you you MUST not do, and they will NOT stand for and you definitely will suffer for it, is what they’re afraid of.
At some point the public opinion will hit critical mass at the street and individual level. Maybe (and maybe not). There is a reason they always want to get out of the area as soon as possible, and have stopped wearing identifiable uniforms.
I have no idea whether a group of ICE agents getting mobbed by an angry crowd that outnumbers them 20-to-1 will be a good thing or a bad thing, if things do reach a point where that happens. I legitimately don’t know. It’s definitely better than no one doing anything until they’ve escalated to filling up all these detention centers they’ve been building with people who mentioned “protest” on Facebook. Also, certainly, them threatening retaliation against people who are showing signs in that direction is a real and dangerous threat.
I’m just saying there is a reason they are calling out judges and bystanders as the threat that they MUST shut down. It’s because it is by far the most easy and reliable undoing to their power. It means a lot more than the Supreme Court, honestly, at the end of the day.
They’re trying to normalize it. And they will succeed if it happens enough time and people don’t do anything against it.
Bro that’s ALL states
Thanks for the correction
Some states might have it in law explicitly. Like some state constitutions duplicate first amendment protections. Or they might have a statewide identification system.
But a cop who doesn’t display a badge is not a cop - they are a criminal thug.
Exactly. You stop being a cop the minute you break the law, or take the uniform off
You stop being a cop the minute you break the law
By that criteria, all the murder, domestic violence, abuse of power, and obstruction of justice would indicate that there’s NO cops in the US… #ACAB
Exactly, and now the Executive is arresting judges who don’t comply
You think anyone’s coming to save us? Me neither.
Many places this would get you shot. Clips from Brazil come to mind as well as Texas and Florida… Or just like Philadelphia
Any prosecutions should fail because there is no mens rea (intent) which is a requirement under criminal law (until the judicial branch is fully captured). The purpose right now is to send a signal that they are above the law and chill anyone attempting to stop them.
Yep… you have it exactly right
Ah. See, that’s how you know you did the right thing.
If their only response is “let us kidnap people or your going to jail!” Then that’s a hell of a lot more than the people deported without due process
“It is shameful” wrote an ICE spokesman who declined to be named in a Saturday morning statement, “that the Commonwealth Attorney, a sworn officer of the court and fellow law enforcement officer, has decided to prioritize politics over public safety"
Oh that is fucking rich coming from someone working for the Trump administration.
And won’t even spew their bullshit with their name attached to it. Cowards.
Projection is a HUGE tool the Right has been using for a while.
Projection is a tell, not a tool.
I get what you mean but they’re using it to manipulate people
How do you use projection as a way to manipulate? Sure, you can lie to people, and they won’t know you are projecting, but that is called lying.
So, how does one use projection as a manipulation tool?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accusation_in_a_mirror
“Accusation in a mirror is a false claim that accuses the target of something that the perpetrator is doing or intends to do.[3][4] The name was used by an anonymous Rwandan propagandist in Note Relative à la Propagande d’Expansion et de Recrutement. Drawing on the ideas of Joseph Goebbels, he instructed colleagues to “impute to enemies exactly what they and their own party are planning to do”.[4][8][9] By invoking collective self-defense, propaganda is used to justify genocide, just as self-defense is a defense for individual homicide.[4] Susan Benesch remarked that while dehumanization “makes genocide seem acceptable”, accusation in a mirror makes it seem necessary.[5]”
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Conservatives are doing [X]
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They pre-emptively go on TV and loudly blame democrats for [X] before it becomes a major story
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When it comes to light that [X] is in fact happening the public is already primed to blame their opponents for it
It’s the sort of thing a 5 year old might do to try and blame the cat for a broken cookie jar, it’s baby’s first con, it’s stupendously obvious what’s going on, but, here we are.
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Fine, call it lying then.
It’s a specific type of lying. Calling a thing by its name is fundamental to generating broad understanding.
Millenia, even.
An anonymous, wanna-be brownshirt coward ICE spokesman, at that.
Sounds like someone that didn’t get their job in the current administration. Hence why they’re refusing to be named.
It’s time for a nationwide movement to dox ICE agents.
I think you spelled shoot wrong.
Order of operations.
Comment of the year right here. Awesome. I like you.
Please Excuse My Dox And Shooting
I do know some has been doxed in the past week.
It’s a start
“It is shameful,” wrote an ICE spokesman who declined to be named.
Well, that’s everything you needed to know. This is what the 2nd ammendment was for. All enemies foreign and domestic.
Weird, the NRA and all the most vocal gun supporters are deafeningly silent about the recent chaos and destruction of this country.
Rules for thee, not for me. Fuckem.
Its time for community action! Thats the only chance of standing up against these tyrants rolling into these areas and abducting people.
It won’t be long before people and neighborhoods start violently defending against ICE activities like this.
ICE Watch.
Take turns keeping an eye out for and warning people in the community.
One can only hope Americans still have it in them to do stuff like that.
Why does everything bad happen in Charlottesville?
Good luck with that. I say let 'em try. They think this makes them look less like fascist cunts?
Downvoting for the format. Need more info on each individual “news” item claims and sources. Literally no other news source is reporting this ICE statement, though it’s very believable.
Not OP, but I did find this from a CBS affiliate which includes a statement they were given by ICE which seems to be the same.
"ICE and federal law enforcement partners coordinated a lawful arrest with the Albemarle General District Court of an illegally present, violent Honduran alien with multiple arrests for assault and battery as well as an outstanding order of protection against him. Two bystanders unsuccessfully attempted to obstruct enforcement efforts, and the U.S. Attorney’s Office intends to prosecute those individuals.
Regrettably, the Albemarle County Commonwealth’s Attorney is posturing for the media and attempting to disgrace the brave officers who made the lawful apprehension in coordination with his office, in an attempt to gain political capital.
ICE stands behind the actions of the law enforcement officers, who are trained to assess and prosecute apprehensions in a manner that best ensures operational success and public safety. It is shameful that the Commonwealth Attorney, a sworn officer of the court and fellow law enforcement officer, has decided to prioritize politics over public safety - placing a criminal’s wellbeing above that of the brave women and men in law-enforcement, whom the Commonwealth Attorney took an oath to support."
It is very odd though that I didn’t find any other coverage from what I would call a reliable source. Maybe it’s just too new…?
Literally not the same phrasing or verbs. “Prosecuted”??? Don’t see that anywhere online, and doubt this video blog has the inside track.
ICE has zero authority to prosecute anyone anywhere. The same way that police forces do not have the ability to prosecute anyone, anywhere.
