• BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    7
    ·
    1 day ago

    That’s observablt false. Capitalism has lead to a massive improvement in living conditions for countries that have implemented it

    Yes it also has downsides, but pretending it doesn’t do anything good is rediculous.

    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 day ago

      Your observation is only true where the working class controls the capital. Your point would be well taken if we all had significant shares providing passive income. Buy not even the wealthiest of the working class controls a share of capital proportionate to their productive output.

      The worst injustices injustices in history have been perpetrated by oligarchs of some shape or another. We are in the middle of such an era now.

      And the word is “ridiculous”.

    • zbyte64@awful.systems
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      18 hours ago

      You sound like Marx just before he recommends transitioning to socialism as the next logical stage of human development.

      • Aux@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        12 hours ago

        Marx was a genocidal maniac. You shouldn’t read much into his lunacy.

      • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        17 hours ago

        I still think that regulated capitalism works best for certain industries, and socialism works best for others.

        It doesn’t have to be an all or nothing choice.

        • zbyte64@awful.systems
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          16 hours ago

          And how do we know which industries would benefit most from capitalism or socialism? All industries experience diminishing returns of capital investment after a certain point, and that is how Marx made the distinction about which mode of production is “best” for which industry. It isn’t inherent that one industry should be socialist and another capitalist, it is relative to how big the industry is and whether there is room for continued expansion.

          • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            14 hours ago

            One of the easiest ways is to determine which industries are most prone to the failures of the market.

            Things that are inherently monopolies like roads, or power lines or things that don’t allow reasonable consumer information/choice like healthcare, etc.