• Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    It really started in 2016 when US security agencies released a joint report showing Russia was spreading misinformation to help Trump win the election.

    Compare russia to the British and consider who is the bigger villain.

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      18 hours ago

      Can we not bother deciding who was the biggest nightmare, and instead focus on finding models for the best countries.

      I am so sick of the “at least the USSR had…” or “at least China does…” conversation. Can’t we have a “Finland has high happiness, broad socialist protections, and a fast moving economy” kind of conversations.

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        16 hours ago

        The point is that foreigners influence elections all the time, all over the world.

        Americans meddle all the time, but are the only one that start crying when it’s done to them.

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          7 hours ago

          Americans have a history of the most insidious manipulations in the politics of other nations - did you see their Sec. of state try commemorate the CIA backed coup of Cuba.

          About “crying” over foreign interference, you are wrong. In the last 4 years France, Canada, Germany, Romania, Sri-Lanka, Australia, all of the Baltic nations andore have a had credible complaints of attempts from foreign nations trying to use propaganda and more to influence elections.

          Let’s not try to convince ourselves than only the Americans are misbehaving.

      • AufusagandR@lemmynsfw.com
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        18 hours ago

        But that would be productive and worthwhile, to talk about actual policy or PISA findings or how to move forward to make the world a better place! Wouldn’t you rather bicker about old enmities in the context of nationalism?