I want to nitpick the definition of “waste” for a moment. Yes, you are using a lot of water, and energy if the water is heated, BUT if you’re getting something remotely positive out of it (and you’re paying for it), then I would not consider it wasteful. If you genuinely want to label it as something, then let’s compromise and call it therapeutic. Deal?
Then we should take it from companies that use it to cool AI super computers, mass surveillance networks, grow the worst water to plant ratio crops possible.
You could take a shower for 4 hours and it wouldn’t make a dent to the misuse by corporations.
This is Lemmy, if you use water to water a plant, it never goes anywhere, it disappears entirely and there is no wider system that the water might become a part of, and if you eat an almond you’ve literally used all the water a city would use in a year.
Lowtechmagazine wrote an excellent article about decadent mist showers that use many small nozzles spraying very fine mist particle sizes water on you as a much more efficient way to use water for showers. I would love to install and try out something like that one day.
And then feel guilty for wasting so much water.
I want to nitpick the definition of “waste” for a moment. Yes, you are using a lot of water, and energy if the water is heated, BUT if you’re getting something remotely positive out of it (and you’re paying for it), then I would not consider it wasteful. If you genuinely want to label it as something, then let’s compromise and call it therapeutic. Deal?
Unless you’re in California or any other area with a low water table. Then it’s a huge issue.
Compare this person’s shower to the many farms growing almonds in the same state.
Abolish almonds
Just abolished a bag this morning.
You are right
At the same time
I can’t whataboutism limited resources
If I was Governor of California I’d push to make it so Almonds and Alfalfa can’t be grown during the drought seasons.
I can live without a legume and I don’t think I know a single person in my entire circle’s circles who has eaten alfalfa.
The alfalfa isn’t for humans, it’s for high intensity dairy and cattle farming.
It sucks that this is practically occult information. People have no understanding of the damage they do.
Yup, it’s just beef, cheese and milk. Though if you can find them without e.coli their sprouts are good on sandwiches too.
You must also consider the externalities, not just the financial cost that you bear personally.
I’d like to see it that way, but fresh water scarcity is a growing problem in many areas.
I have to wonder how much impact people taking 30-minute showers would have compared to corporate [mis]use.
Corporate waste massively overshadows personal use.
Then we should take it from companies that use it to cool AI super computers, mass surveillance networks, grow the worst water to plant ratio crops possible.
You could take a shower for 4 hours and it wouldn’t make a dent to the misuse by corporations.
I saw an ad from Esso that said you can reduce gas usage by emptying out your trunk!
it’s what would be described as “sub optimal use of a finite costly resource”
If a billionaire enjoyed launching brand new cars off a cliff and considered it therapeutic would it not longer be a waste?
do cars evaporate and reaccumulate in the car supply eventually?
Water in the shower goes down the drain for most people. Probably as much evaporation as an exploded car.
…where it accumulates in underground caverns for ever!!!
Processing waste water takes time, money and produces carbon emissions.
Then say that. Not that it can’t evaporate.
The downvotes are frightening. The small things that millions of people do shape the planet.
I like a warm shower myself, but it comes with some guilt.
Just like with plant based diets it’s really just par for the course. Even the smallest amount of taking accountability is like pulling teeth.
Much easier to blame the evil corporations who exist because billionaires want to destroy the planet and not because consumers buy their things.
This is Lemmy, if you use water to water a plant, it never goes anywhere, it disappears entirely and there is no wider system that the water might become a part of, and if you eat an almond you’ve literally used all the water a city would use in a year.
I mitigate it by brushing my teeth in there.
I used a buddy’s shower once, toothbrush was in there. I told him that was a great idea, really works to get the dingleberries off my asshole hair.
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Get a mirror, shave and pee in there too. Does help justify those long shower a little.
I shave in the shower without a mirror or shaving cream. With a straight razor.
Hell yeah brother. Thought I was alone there.
Lowtechmagazine wrote an excellent article about decadent mist showers that use many small nozzles spraying very fine mist particle sizes water on you as a much more efficient way to use water for showers. I would love to install and try out something like that one day.
Some of us live where a majority or the earth’s fresh water supply is. Water shortages tend to be localized