“Every election in my lifetime has resulted in worsening of the human condition because “protest (non-)voters” can’t be bothered to consider the most elementary examples of cause and effect”
You say this as if the Democratic party hasn’t run with exact same strategy the entire time. A strategy that doesn’t work. Followed by yelling at people for not loving them enough (which has also never worked) and doing nothing to address there own shortcomings.
They (rightfully) pointed out the bigotry of American conservatives, and then run a campaign to court this vote and alienate they people they claim as there base. And pick Kamala Harris as the candidate, as conservatives would ever vote for a black woman.
Blindly electing democrats for running as blue team is what got us here, it is not going to get us out of it.
They have run the same strategy every time because it is what the data informs them that they should. They want to get elected (and maintain a neoliberal status quo) so, they listen to those who vote for them.
When leftists refuste to vote or “protest vote”, the data points do not suggest to those making decisions that they should change course. No. They, possibly intentionally, embrace survivorship bias. Those that didn’t vote are considered unreliable voters and removed from who the party decides to represent in their policies.
Is it bullshit and fundamentally fallacious reasoning? Yes. However, the party leadership is more concerned with keeping their cushy jobs and insider trading than any socially progressive philosophy (remember that most current Dems have been in office since before their party supported same-sex marriage). The data to them says “you can’t count on votes from the left but the right always votes”, so, court them to keep getting elected. And Dem leadership is intrinsically linked to participation in primaries and outside of elections. Their jackassery is actively enabled by people sitting them out - once doesn’t get a seat at the table if they don’t show up.
To add to the above, leftists refusing to even try to transform the Democratic party puts all of us in a precarious position due to economic (neo)liberals history of consistently siding with fascists.
Look, I get that not voting isn’t the answer and have voted democrat in every election of my life.
“Those that didn’t vote are considered unreliable voters and removed from who the party decides to represent in their policies.” But this isn’t true. The Democrats dont ignore leftists because they refuse to vote democrat. The Democratics ignore leftist because they feel entitled to the vote, that leftists have no where else to go and that they should instead pander to conservatives who would otherwise vote Republican. This is literally just disenfranchizing your own base.
And frankly I don’t see anyway to fix that, cause you’re right that the Dems will look at leftist whose support they lost and decide it means that they should instead find support from republicans. But passing the blame off of the party and unto the people they failed to represent just doesn’t work, it isn’t going to convince anyone to come back to them.
“To add to the above, leftists refusing to even try to transform the Democratic party puts all of us in a precarious position due to economic (neo)liberals history of consistently siding with fascists.” i mean, leftist have tried (and continue to try) to transform the Democratic party, it just doesn’t work. Coopting and destroying left wing movements is like the only thing the Democratic party is actually competent at. Like (literally) every single mass political movement in my living memory has been taken in and destroyed by the Democratic party, because they feel entitled to speak for us.
I don’t know an easy solution for this, but voting blue isn’t it. I’ll still vote for them next election (if it happens) but we can’t delude ourselves into thinking that they are going to help. If we want the USA to make it out of fascism, we need to be building political power outside of the Democratic party
“Every election in my lifetime has resulted in worsening of the human condition because “protest (non-)voters” can’t be bothered to consider the most elementary examples of cause and effect” You say this as if the Democratic party hasn’t run with exact same strategy the entire time. A strategy that doesn’t work. Followed by yelling at people for not loving them enough (which has also never worked) and doing nothing to address there own shortcomings. They (rightfully) pointed out the bigotry of American conservatives, and then run a campaign to court this vote and alienate they people they claim as there base. And pick Kamala Harris as the candidate, as conservatives would ever vote for a black woman. Blindly electing democrats for running as blue team is what got us here, it is not going to get us out of it.
They have run the same strategy every time because it is what the data informs them that they should. They want to get elected (and maintain a neoliberal status quo) so, they listen to those who vote for them.
When leftists refuste to vote or “protest vote”, the data points do not suggest to those making decisions that they should change course. No. They, possibly intentionally, embrace survivorship bias. Those that didn’t vote are considered unreliable voters and removed from who the party decides to represent in their policies.
Is it bullshit and fundamentally fallacious reasoning? Yes. However, the party leadership is more concerned with keeping their cushy jobs and insider trading than any socially progressive philosophy (remember that most current Dems have been in office since before their party supported same-sex marriage). The data to them says “you can’t count on votes from the left but the right always votes”, so, court them to keep getting elected. And Dem leadership is intrinsically linked to participation in primaries and outside of elections. Their jackassery is actively enabled by people sitting them out - once doesn’t get a seat at the table if they don’t show up.
To add to the above, leftists refusing to even try to transform the Democratic party puts all of us in a precarious position due to economic (neo)liberals history of consistently siding with fascists.
Look, I get that not voting isn’t the answer and have voted democrat in every election of my life. “Those that didn’t vote are considered unreliable voters and removed from who the party decides to represent in their policies.” But this isn’t true. The Democrats dont ignore leftists because they refuse to vote democrat. The Democratics ignore leftist because they feel entitled to the vote, that leftists have no where else to go and that they should instead pander to conservatives who would otherwise vote Republican. This is literally just disenfranchizing your own base.
And frankly I don’t see anyway to fix that, cause you’re right that the Dems will look at leftist whose support they lost and decide it means that they should instead find support from republicans. But passing the blame off of the party and unto the people they failed to represent just doesn’t work, it isn’t going to convince anyone to come back to them.
“To add to the above, leftists refusing to even try to transform the Democratic party puts all of us in a precarious position due to economic (neo)liberals history of consistently siding with fascists.” i mean, leftist have tried (and continue to try) to transform the Democratic party, it just doesn’t work. Coopting and destroying left wing movements is like the only thing the Democratic party is actually competent at. Like (literally) every single mass political movement in my living memory has been taken in and destroyed by the Democratic party, because they feel entitled to speak for us.
I don’t know an easy solution for this, but voting blue isn’t it. I’ll still vote for them next election (if it happens) but we can’t delude ourselves into thinking that they are going to help. If we want the USA to make it out of fascism, we need to be building political power outside of the Democratic party