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    Law enforcement. TSA. Many groups need to know your sex.

    I believe they fixed it but the wrong sex would trigger an issue with the tsa scanners.

    Law enforcement needs to know which group to put you with.

    When you travel it is important as well since other countries may not care how you identify. Why passports are problematic.

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      Why do my genitals matter which metal box I get put into if I get arrested? Or are you going to parrot the “trans women are rapists” talking point the far-right is pushing?

      A passport with a gender marker that doesn’t match someone’s presentation is going to cause them far more trouble, because it outs the person as trans and that may be a reason for someone to treat them with prejudice.

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        You really don’t get they put males with males and females with females? You don’t get why law enforcement would need to know how to classify you?

        They’ll know they’re trans when they go through the scanner and the sex doesn’t match the gender. This has been an issue that’s been discussed in the past.

        https://transequality.org/know-your-rights/airport-security

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          Trans people should not be forced to go into a prison with people of a different gender than them just because they had the misfortune to be born with genitals that didn’t align with society’s expectations of their gender. Genitals they may not even have anymore.

          To insist that trans women should be housed with men is inherently transphobic. What benefit do you get out of sex-based segregation? All it does is put trans people in danger.

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            Who are you arguing against? I never stated an opinion on the topic. I only pointed out the flaw in your statement.

            So maybe you should pay attention and stop accusing others of things they never said.

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              I am disputing things you are saying because they are harmful. If you don’t believe them, then don’t say them.

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                I cited an article from a pro-trans right group. Can you be anymore narcissistic? You’re not the voice of trans people. Your rant does more to harm them than anything else I’ve seen here.

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                  You didn’t cite anything for your statement about trans people being housed with their AGAB in prisons, and acted as if it was an obvious thing why they should be. I asked why. I’m really not being unreasonable here, but if you think I am then you’re welcome to stop replying.

                  I will not be tone policed by someone who spreads harmful statements about trans people.

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                    You are missing the point. All anyone ever thinks of is MtF but if you are FtM, especially presurgery, do you really want that?

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        I am not sure what point you’re arguing. I never made a statement if it should or shouldn’t be allowed.

        What I stated was the issue.

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          And let me guess: you’re very rational in your support of this policy while pretending you don’t care/haven’t said anything either way, blissfully unaware of the fact that the only reason this law was created was to punish the queer community for existing?

          Can we please stop looking for reasoning and acting like we don’t all know why this law happened?

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              What did I do that was in bad faith? I’m speaking plainly. My intentions are clear as day. You’re the one going “I never made a statement” as a way to weasel out of anyone making statements about your opinions. That’s bad faith nonsense right there.

              Just because somebody says something you don’t like doesn’t mean you can just accuse them of acting in bad faith. I feel like that’s just a really obnoxious carryover from Reddit.

              If you want to accuse me of making assumptions that’s very much fair game. But that’s not bad faith. It’s at most an unfair accusation.

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                I never made a statement on my stance. Trying to twist that into a statement is a bad faith argument.

                I am not accusing you of bad faith. You’re clearly acting in bad faith.

                You created a whole fantasy description of my beliefs in the topic which are not only false but not logical from what I said.

                You’re a bad faith actor.

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                  That’s still not what bad faith means but fine let’s get to brass tacks then: why did this happen? No theories. No rationalizing to make it sound reasonable. Why did the Kansas health department make this new policy?

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                    Don’t care why it happened. I was addressing the issue and not the politics behind it.

                    It’s a complex issue that needs to be solved at the federal level. This is a situation where each state can’t make their own rules