Summary
A new Leger poll reveals that 27% of Canadians now consider the U.S. an “enemy” country, while 30% still see it as an ally.
The survey follows escalating tensions, including President Trump’s tariff threats and his suggestion that Canada should become a U.S. state.
Trump remains widely unpopular in Canada, with 74% viewing him unfavorably. Political affiliation influences perceptions, with Conservatives more likely to see the U.S. as an ally.
Liberals, NDP, and Bloc Québécois supporters view the U.S. more negatively.
They should.
Our populace is too stupid to vote responsibly, which means the filth will always rise to the top, which means our government will always be corrupt, which means it can’t be trusted.
Distance yourself from us. Form allegiances with other countries. We cannot be trusted.
I’m sorry. I’ve voted at every opportunity to prevent this outcome. Many of us have. Just not enough.
I’ve voted at every opportunity to prevent this outcome.
I’m afraid to ask
What would possibly be unclear here
I am a U.S. citizen (stuck in the U.S.) and I view the U.S. as an enemy country
How are you stuck in the US?
How am I stuck in the country?
My government won’t issue me a passport.
Aside from the extreme financial and planning difficulties involved with emigrating, It’s exceedingly difficult for trans individuals to get a passport right now. The department of state has been destroying identity documents of anyone who is currently or has previously requested an official gender change and they are not providing any recourse or remedy to the issue.
Just a “please leave or you will be arrested” when asked what can I do to get a passport…
Jfc. Unbelievable. Well, very believable. Scumbags.
Money.
Also, people tend to have things like friends and family.
If I could gather all my friends and family with me and move out of this backwards ass shithole, I would. It’s not that simple.
This is always the Libertarian shitpost response: “you’re free to do what you want” because you don’t recognize economic coercion. It’s a perfectly OK form of limiting freedom. Fuck off.
I don’t have the financial wherewithal to pick up and move to another country. If I did I’d be out of here.
Don’t listen to that guy. Canadians know Americans, and we know some of you are fine. Hopefully it gets easier to come here soon enough.
you could go to vietnam probably
stay where you are.
You’ve fucked up enough countries.Oh yeah, because some dude working at a DeMoines McDonalds is really tearing other countries apart.
Get real, homie.
not your homie.
90+ percent of US votes for the uniparty and when it comes down to it they all support their imperial wars and profit from it.
They can go to hell.90% lol you can’t even get 50% to vote
so i should care about them?
Damn, you sure are good at getting people to rally around your point.
Keep it up, HOMIE. You’re really changing minds.
And by the way, since you’re so god damned self righteous, I didn’t vote for Trump OR Kamala. So what “uniparty” did I vote for? Fucking reactionary leftists destructing their own, that’s you.
Homie.
but the person you are talking to didn’t. That’s the very premise of this conversation. Please find another justification, homie.
what is wrong with you
Screw you. The peasant is not the imperialist.
@harsh From your values, sounds like I would welcome you to my country.
These libs now get a piece of their own medicine.
They wouldn’t give a shit about the rest of the world.
Oh, so there’s not another Country that’ll just pick up your tab and give you free food, a phone, a car, help you get a place to live and let you have one of their citizens jobs? Got it!
Have you ever considered how expensive it is to emigrate to another nation? And then there’s the acceptance part, which anyone who has gone through it can tell you, is VERY difficult.
The uncertainty surrounding it is just far too much for most people.
Apart from the cost, logistics, finding a job…emigrating is terrifyingly huge.
That’s exactly my point. America is the greatest country on earth. You can’t just waltz into other countries and get the help that you can get here. Yes, right now things are changing in that respect. We’ve been taken advantage of in a huge way and it’s simply not sustainable.
You could not more wrong. American capitalism is the worst form of capitalism in the world. It is only attractive to people from truly desperate situations.
You know what? Go fuck yourself.
I could tell you why I would choose to stay where I am even if I had the resources to leave. It is actually possible for some of us to put together a decent life for our families and try to brighten the lives of those around us.
…Even though our government is somewhere between evil and self-destruct, and our culture is somewhere between “fuck you got mine” and “die woman/jew/brown/LGBT+/other!”
And yeah I’m a straight white dude, how did you guess? :/
But anyway, I’ve lived in the same house for 17 years. It is a 10 minute walk to the elementary/middle school my son will attend for the next 5 years. It is a 6 minute drive to the office for the best job I’ve ever had. We are active in our community and school district, and have some wonderful friends. All my son’s grandparents are within a reasonable drive (but not too close). All my nieces and nephews are similarly close by.
It’s a small modest house that we’ve made our own. In the past 5 years we’ve done some major renovations, repairs, and remodeling. We fenced in the back yard which is great for our kid and our multiple dogs. And our tortoise. Oh yeah, we’re animal lovers. And that includes a koi pond that I built in the back yard that’s literally part of my mental health self-care.
Moving to some place that seems less insane right now would materially change my entire life, not just which government I have to live under.
Surprised it’s that low, before trump I would have thought it would be at around 25%
There are a lot of maple maga and confederate flag waving trash in Canada though, so it probably balanced out a bit
And rightfully so. We currently have a dictator that is threatening to absorb them into the collective shithole that America has become…
I cannot blame them one bit and I’m surprised the percentage is that low.
What’s more appalling is that 13% of Canadians have a favourable view of Trump. Do better Alberta. Do better.
That’s not funny. Grocery stores here are filled with people weeding out the American products, too.
That’s because conservatism is a wildly violent mental disorder that seeks to destroy all positive freedom and oppress everyone in the most ruthless ways possible. They have to be killed, and you had better be arming up. This is not hyperbole; you do not understand who you are dealing with.
We did have an idea, we saw the gas chambers. Now just like the Israelis, we’re taking a turn at being the bad guy, so yeah arm and practice. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast
Sorry Canada
A little less than half of Americans are my enemy. This is also the same percentage of Canadians I consider to be my enemy.
The new right, freedom convoys, AFD, and other far right movements are our common enemy.
The big, important difference being that in the US the naughty third is in control.
As a Canadian, this didn’t feel right so I actually opened the article and there you go it’s an online survey.
We are cooked. Instead of Trump improving relations with our allies he is making them mad.😭
Can’t say I disagree with them. Usually it’s the canucks always saying sorry but this one is on us. Sorry.
Wouldn’t say “enemy” exactly, but I think it’s fair to say there isn’t a Western democracy in the world that views the USA as a reliable ally right now. Because you’re a Russian asset.
Are they a frenemy then? A rival? A sibling that’s kinda strung out on drugs that you don’t know what to do with but still feel kinda responsible to make sure they don’t fuck up too bad?
I think it’s more like a sibling that you grew up with who was taught the same moral code as you. They were living a healthy, normal life for a while but got offered a very high paying job that is at odds with those childhood morals. They decided to take it, and at first, they did just a few unethical things. Then, they realized that they could make more money by being more unethical and the people who were supposed to be chastising them were not very good at punishing people with money and were really easy to manipulate, so they leaned in to the lack of ethics.
They know what their doing is hurting people, and they don’t care because they want to drive their Lamborghini to family Christmas and bring an ostentatiously expensive bottle of wine so that people can praise and fawn over them. But, if you call them on their bad behavior, they become enemies because how dare you?! Now we’re the sibling who is powerful but has completely gone awry due to that same power.
I’m hoping we gave a nice family reunion someday where my country has learned the error of its ways and can once again be accepted by its lovely Canadian relatives.
They are compromised.
The United States of America is the enemy of the free world
There isn’t really a free world but the USA is definitely an enemy
Historically Canada also feels that Americans don’t know much about us at all.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BhTZ_tgMUdo&t=331s&pp=2AHLApACAQ%3D%3D
That’s because most Americans are ignorant to anything that isn’t about them. I am an American, and I would definitely leave if I could. My passport ran out, and I will try to get another one, but I’m not hopeful anymore. I am eligible for a UK passport through ancestral means, but since I’m on disability, I can’t afford the immigration fees. I have always felt like a second citizen in the US. My mother was from England, as well as half of my family. I have been there several times and I absolutely loved my time there. My ex-wife is from there as well. Not everyone in the US is a far-right cultist, some of us are just as pissed about the threats to you guys as you are. By the way, go Blue Jays, keep Vladdy in blue.
You are correct, the only thing I know about Canada is your still part of the empire in some wierd way and you fought hard as fuck during WW2.
Kinda wierd I know more about Mexican history than yours
It’s kind of weird, but I’m not surprised. Mexico is exotic and just has a lot more historically going on IIRC.
Canada’s history goes something like: The French start trading furs with the natives, the colonial British show up, the British take New France from
Napoleonthe French, they decide to shotgun-marry the two into a new country after the US civil war, and then the country slowly transitions from being in a geopolitics-free bubble run by the British to one run by the Americans (with a period of worrying about the two fighting each other).So, the big picture isn’t exactly action-packed - in a way, we’re having the most eventful period in the country’s history now. (Of course, there’s tons of other stuff if you want to look closer, including migrations, minor rebellions, the various schemes the British tried to thwart American expansion, constant flirtation with splitting apart again and Newfoundland joining)
Edit: Oh shit, I forgot the vikings. Yeah, they came and did viking stuff, and left some house foundations. Then all died out. And I should mention it had stuff happening the whole time before Europeans arrived, just no literate cultures to record it, so it’s prehistory.
The British took New France from France at the end of the seven years war with the treaty of Paris in 1763. Napoleon was born 7 years later. Napoleon only sold Louisiana to the US in 1804 just because his plans were not working out with Haiti.
Shit, wrong war between England and France! My bad, will fix.
The Commonwealth of Nations, often simply referred to as the Commonwealth is an international association of 56 member states, the vast majority of which are former territories of the British Empire from which it developed. They are connected through their use of the English language and historical-cultural ties. The chief institutions of the organisation are the Commonwealth Secretariat, which focuses on intergovernmental relations, and the Commonwealth Foundation, which focuses on non-governmental relations between member nations. Numerous organisations are associated with and operate within the Commonwealth. It is known colloquially as the British Commonwealth.
I mean, that leaves out the part where Charles III is our de jure (but not de facto) head of state.
In name only. Canada is neither beholden or attached to Britain except by tradition,. Same as Australia, the Bahamas, Cameroon and 53 other nation states.
De jure means the law as written, de facto means in practice.
Yes, in practice we’re totally independent, but the fact our constitution says otherwise seems like a bigger deal than the cultural ties or whatever.
We give them no money, land or resources. We are not beholden to them to fight their wars or be involved in their treaties and our “Canadian Oath of Allegiance is a promise or declaration of fealty to the Canadian monarch—as personification of the Canadian state and its authority, rather than as an individual person”. Source
We owe them nothing.
I never said we did.
I mean, they don’t. Their country is self-contained enough they don’t have to bother. I hear Chinese are the same way, if you can understand their language.
As they should.
I view the U.S. as an enemy country right now, and I live here.
You complete me.
Do I foresee little ProfessorNougatScience babies in the future…?
Been that way at least 25 years.
Yeah big same!
I’ll never understand staying in a place you hate.
I understand that options aren’t available to everyone
A mixture of emotions. In my case,
1.) I live in Illinois and bought a home in 2020 when the interest rate was 3.2% as a first-time homeowner. If I were to sell and look for a new home, the interest rate in Canada would be somewhere around 4%, plus the cost of living is higher compared to where I live. That’s ignoring the complications that could come from obtaining a permanent work visa as a foreign citizen.
2.) I love my job as it is now and it may be difficult to find a job in the same field. Also, my wife recently found a job in her career field and for the first time wants to stay at her employer for the foreseeable future; working in public health and helping the people this horrible healthcare system is failing to care for.
3.) Family and friendship ties to the area.
4.) There’s some semblance of hope if we stay. I do still want the best for everyone that I share this earth with. Even if it were financially viable for me to leave, there’s millions that aren’t so lucky. If I pack up and leave that’s one less person voting for progressive policy and advocating for empathy in a country that has real projective power in the world.
5.) Illinois, as a blue state, is temporarily insulated from damaging policy that Trump is trying to enact. JB Pritzker has remained steadfast in his opposition to Trump and regressive political action.
I liken it to French opposition during the period of Nazi occupation. (Clearly it’s not a 1:1 comparison.) The french resistance hampered Nazi wartime efforts just enough to keep Nazi logistics from being able to cross the channel and occupy Great Britain. If that were to happen, the United States wouldn’t be able to set up any sort of staging area on the other side of the Atlantic ocean. Amphibious assaults would have taken place on the western coast of GB where there’s cliff faces rather than the sandy beaches at Normandy. Maybe Germany is then able to allocate more troops to the eastern front in that scenario, who knows. But thankfully that’s just a hypothetical and isn’t something we have to ponder.
What are you going to do about it?
Edited to add
Second time I’ve asked this and second time I’ve been downvoted to hell. Seems Americans don’t like their apathy challenged. It’s easy to be a keyboard warrior but no one seems to like facing the reality that they may have to actually do something about it.
I downvoted you after your edit, because you’re a little bit of a dick about it.
You’re probably being down voted because of the presumption that we’re not doing things. Protests, calling representatives, boycotts, mutual aid networks, etc. Some of us work directly in politics or directly in government, and do what we can in those spaces, too.
It’s kind of irritating to get a finger-wagging admonition when you’re exploring all options short of outright assassination. And if the suggestion is to just start shooting, well, I think it’s asking more than you think for someone to choose to become a killer.
And perhaps you could explain why my other reply to those that answered earnestly also get downvoted. For example, https://sh.itjust.works/comment/16824568
The question contains no presumption. I want to hear what Americans are going to do about the rise of fascism in their country directly from Americans’ mouths (or this case, finger tips).
If you’re actively protesting, calling reps, or working from within as you say, I say good job and good start.
If that’s true, instead of asking a rather blunt and extremely-easy-to-misinterpret question of individual people, go post a question about it somewhere. The presentation you’ve chosen (I saw the other one in the wild as well) comes across as rude and combative, even if that’s not the intention. It’s a quite bad way to foster open and honest conversation.
Since this Trump thing started rolling a whole month ago, people have been quite openly hostile toward Americans. And like fine, we get it, but many of us -are- doing things, and always have been trying to make things better… and we are getting caught by the same exhausting “you should have done more!!! You deserve it, this is what you voted for!!! Reeeeee!!!” That’s being slung at people who actually do deserve it. It’s really tiring, on top of everything else, to have to defend ourselves and our actions to random insensitive internet people with zero cause. We 75 million active blue voters can only do so much at a time to fix a country of 350 million incredibly diverse people (and we’ve been working at it for years if not decades, this loss was devastating for many of us). Most of whom are either stupid or selfish. Most of whom have never actually seen voting red or blue to have a marked impact on anything, because until quite recently it truly hasn’t made much material difference for your average person.
Before you ask, I’m working on getting my house ready to sell so I can buy some land to build up, solo and with as much manual effort as needed, into an off-grid year-round passive-productive farm (big ask in hardiness zone 4! But I’m 💪 capable!), that forms the foundation of a robust mutual aid network to help everyone I can… tho the fruits (and veggies) of my labor are far too sweet for the vipers that are fascists, so they get nothing but shot. They made this mess and I will do absolutely nothing to protect them from the consequences. Fortunately, they can’t help but tell you who they are. Every aid package or delivery will contain pro-social messaging, about banding together to get through the hard times, about supporting everyone based on need not ability, etc. I’ll also be building additional housing on this land (again, entirely solo, other than electrical), so I can provide soft landing for friends and family, or hire a person to help me in exchange for food and board for their family.
Those who are really going to do things about stuff shouldn’t yap about it on social media. Loose lips sink ships.
Right now I’m in a holding pattern. There’s a non-zero chance that Trump will be distracted by something shiny and we’ll move on to the next fucking fever dream crisis. There’s also a really, really good chance that if he does order to invade Canada, real shit will start to pop off here.
Trump isn’t calling the shots.
Nice try. How long have you been working at DOGE?
Nice try? To do what? Spur Americans into not sliding further into fascism? Guilty as charged, I guess.
Oh of course, sorry about that… (winks) officer.
There’s a good chance that wherever you live, far-right candidates are making headway in your government. What are you doing about it?
The federal government where I live is not actively imploding, so right off the bat I would like to point out that it’s a false equivalence. However, there is definitely a ton of headway to make in my more local area.
I am staying aware of my local politics, vote every chance I get, contracting my government representatives. I campaign for the people I think can help my area and country the best, and I encourage everyone I know to vote.
If my government starts slipping into fascism, I will do more. I will say also that with the USA burning every alliance it has in the span of a month, I’ve never more strongly considered joining the armed forces in some capacity.
If it’s already started slipping into fascism, you could be too late.
You have to stop fascism before it ever starts.
If my government starts slipping into fascism, I will do more.
Very easy to say. Hopefully you’ll never have to put your money where your mouth is.
I don’t disagree with you!
Godspeed! The US has a whole lotta pain coming up, and it will have a big effect on the world order. We’ve had it coming for a long time, though.
I don’t know about them, but I’ve been attending protests and getting more locally involved. I live in a very blue state so haranguing my local reps won’t do much since they’re already on the same page.
Good start, keep it up. Don’t dismiss contacting your reps just because you’re in a blue state.
The reason you’re getting downvoted is it’s a problem even here in the country. It’s the “Why aren’t you doing anything about it?” to all of us.
In the case of me, I live 1000 miles away from the seat of power, our representatives actively are dismantling things we voted for, not national I’m talking, state level, because we’re outright surrounded by the people who are actively cheering for this. (and the example of the voting against, state voted to get rid of the most strict abortion law in the country, legalizing it… and now the representatives on state level are trying to get a pregnancy registry “to try to stop preventable abortions.” while the state rep at national level is trying to get a national abortion ban going. This is one of many many many things in the state by itself. Hell, I just learned the state just gained police control to the other city after they managed to vote that out.)
I didn’t downvote, but I want you to read “What are you going to do about it?” out loud. Hell, you yourself said it’s the apathy. But the fuck am I going to do? Show up and wave a sign at the people who already have shown they couldn’t give a flying shit about our opinions? Or be there when the fight starts and be a martyr. The second option the best case scenario is getting to be like Tank Man, but honestly demographics I’d be one of the many forgotten in the Tiananmen Square Massacre. And that’s what it’s going to look like, because this administration you better believe is looking for an opportunity to go full martial law, and if we don’t do it, their brownshirts will for them.
So the best I can fucking do is stock up, prepare, keep my head down, keep in contact with the people who are in the same boat as I am being in effectively enemy territory and use the privilege I have of looking like a standard white conservative to see how many I can keep safe when being that demographic is important.
What do you want people to say to you on the Internet that is owned and monitored by the same people doing this?
I just want them to honestly answer the question.
Vote Yes when secession comes up?