Wikipedia’s credibility is under attack from pro-Israel critics and right-wing voices such as Elon Musk

  • schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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    5 days ago

    Israel/Palestine is truly a conflict where no matter what argument you raise (on either side), there is a counterargument.

    The argument against yours, for example, is here: https://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2024/05/a-really-strange-genocide.html

    I am generally very sympathetic to the Palestinians and think the immediate root cause of the present situation is the fact that Israel has been blockading Gaza for more than a decade, not allowing movement in or out of it, which I do not think can be justified by anything. I regularly read the blog I linked to above (yes, I consciously read things I don’t agree with), its author would probably say that the immediate root cause is something Hamas did in October of 2023. Difficult to say how to “neutrally” present that, right?

    • Zorque@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      Just because a counterargument exists does not mean it is meaningful.

      “Nuh-uh” is a counterargument. It’s just one relegated to grade school playgrounds and internet discussions.

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      5 days ago

      The response to your link would be: Are Palestinians allowed to use those hospitals in any significant numbers?

      This guy also considers the second intifada to be a genocidal campaign (lol what???) so they’re too detached from reality to be taken seriously either way.

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        4 days ago

        To commmit a genocide, one needs motive, opportunity and the means to carry out the crime. Hamas has repeatedly stated that killing all the Jews is an objective of theirs. But objectively, they have neither opportunity nor means. Israel, in particular the ruling Likud Party, has satisfied all three preconditions, though.

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          4 days ago

          Hamas has repeatedly stated that killing all the Jews is an objective of theirs.

          They haven’t though. They consider the destruction of Israel an objective of theirs, but at least as of 2017 they officially don’t want the extermination of Jews.