That’s a good point, if he’s closing it every time it might be some kind of odd blindspot in processing, but still not stupid or incurious.
It’s a shame that the dishwasher the landlord installed has a shitty soap compartment that sometimes failed to open during the wash. When I tried to take it apart to see what the issue was, I couldn’t get it back in. So now I just chuck the puck in.
My parents were really adamant about not leaving any food on plates, so it really doesn’t make a difference to me.
Same. If I use the compartment it has like a 50% success rate. So I Chuck it in and it works well enough
I wash by hand. Please convince me to use a dishwasher?
Meanwhile, I know people that should just not use a dishwasher bcz they can’t load it properly. Honestly, dishwashers are bloody useless. Washing by hand is faster and cheaper.
The trick to having the dishwasher work is to run the tap on the sink until the water is hot. Using powder or liquid dish detergent instead of those sub-optimal expensive tablets also helps, as does leaving sauces on some of the dishes or cookware (only scraping off solid chunks of food)
Even cheap dishwashers clean very well (assuming no clogged filters or mechanical faults) if you follow the above steps.
Dishwashers may not be as fast as going by hand, but the idea is that you free up time requiring active attention by using the appliance. Dishwashers also use much less water for a cycle than 99% of hand washing setups.
lol
My dishwasher was caked in that white film that denotes very hard water when I got it. Came with the house. Literally did not clean anything put in it. Found some stuff online called Afresh. Comes in tablet form. Tossed one into the machine ran an empty cycle and now it works like it should
I think you’re talking about lime scale.
I’m pretty sure the afresh just descaled your dishwasher.
Many dishwashers have a dedicated spot for a “rinse aid” like jet dry, and I’m pretty sure that is just a prevention method for this exact problem.
IDK, I’m not a scientist or anything.
I’m not a scientist either, but from what I remember from reading the manual; rinse aid helps with drying the dishes, makes it so that water don’t stick to them as well. Added dishwasher salt is what helps with lime scale. My dishwasher has a separate salt container, and I then tell the dishwasher how hard my water is and it will add the appropriate amount of salt to the water.
Feel free to correct me if I got it backwards.
I couldn’t possibly correct you because I don’t know enough to know what I’m doing myself.
Since neither of us are scientists, we might have to patiently wait for someone to come along who is, that can straighten out facts here.
Rinse aid is what we call a surfactant. It disrupts the surface tension of water, which in turn lessens its ability to cling to surfaces.
You know how when you get a smooth surface of glass or plastic wet, there will be a lot of beads of water that just cling there and don’t go anywhere? Unless they grow big enough to start finally running down the side? That’s surface tension in action. Adding the rinse aid will reduce water’s ability to bead up like this on dishes. Instead, water will be more likely to run down the surface in unbroken sheets instead of beading up.
The primary intent is that more water will simply drip off the dishes due to gravity. This does make dishes come out dryer after a drying cycle, and/or decreases the time the drying cycle takes or the energy it requires to get the same effect. But the main reason wanting water to drip off of dishes is to prevent limescale on them.
When water evaporates, only the water disappears into the air. Anything that was dissolved in that water gets left behind. If your water is hard, that will mean there’s a bunch of calcites that will stay behind as a whitish powder called limescale. So if you wash dishes with hard water, let the rinse water stay beaded up on them, and dry it out via only evaporation, you get some limescale buildup on them in the form of so-called “water spots”.
If instead you add rinse aid, more of the water will drip off the dishes, taking all the dissolved calcites with it. Less water has to evaporate, fewer calcites are left behind on the dishes, so less limescale and fewer water spots. Thus why many brands of the stuff show photos of crystal-clear glass on the box. A water-spotted glass will be cloudy and speckled. Rinse-aided glass will–supposedly, anyway–be clearer.
Just RTFM?
I read somewhere that around ⅓ of people (at least in my country) are effectively illiterate. They can read but they can’t really understand what they read. They can’t solve logical tasks and would fail for example to take medication according to written instruction. It does explain a lot.
Is your country the USA?
This is a way broader phenomenon than just the US, though granted the US educational system might skew things in a negative direction versus most other supposedly “Developed” Nations.
that people without a broader vocabulary won’t understand.
That’s why dictionary exists.
If you’ve ever tried to read a foreign language book when your knowledge of the language is merely basic and tried to use a dictionary to solve the problem of many words being unknown, you’ll know how frustrating that becomes and fast - one actually learns faster at the beginning by just keeping on reading even if not understanding a lot of things.
Further some of the “words” are often not words but acronyms, so not likely to be in a dictionary, plus a lot of domain specific words aren’t in general dictionaries either (good luck finding the names of certain chemical chains and their properties in a general dictionary when trying to understand the booklet in a box of medicine).
Last but not least often even the explanations for some words require understanding of some concepts that people do not understand (most people probably know what “analgesic” is, but how many know what “antipyretic” - a not to far away concept given how many common medicines have both - is?).
Things which are supposed to be simple can turn into veritable dives down the rabbit hole to fully understand for those outside that expert domain if they were not simplified for ease of access to the general population, so it’s hardly surprising if many people just chose to blindly use something as advised without even trying to understand it (which, let’s be honest, it’s probably the correct way for most people to used things like for example medicine if the source of the advice is a medical doctor).
Don’t get me wrong: people should be more curious and more often trying and figure things out beyond the merely “how to use”. At the same time, the information that comes with from expert domains in things targeted at non-experts should be as much as possible reduced to common language (though even that is a balance, since a ton of things required several layers of explanation to fully explain to non-experts).
foreign language book when your knowledge of the language is merely basic
There are dictionaries for this too.
one actually learns faster at the beginning by just keeping on reading even if not understanding a lot of things.
Yes and no. I used to do this, but when I sat down with dictionaries and translated one giant chapter of fanfic without skipping unknown words and preserving all jokes, I greatly improved my understanding of foreign language.
so it’s hardly surprising if many people just chose to blindly use something as advised
Many people don’t even have RTFM skill, so they can’t follow advises they didn’t read.
At the same time, the information that comes with from expert domains in things targeted at non-experts should be as much as possible reduced to common language (though even that is a balance,
If you don’t, then expert domain becomes common language. How many people don’t know what voltage is?
since a ton of things required several layers of explanation to fully explain to non-experts).
Try to open wikipedia article for something very common. Soon you will end up reading 5 articles about scientific disciplines and 6 articles about mathematical fields.
It’s funny because i learned 6 foreign languages, 2 of which to fluent level and another 2 to good level (and the other 2 to “I manage to get away with it” level ;)), and the approach of using of a dictionary to learn the meaning of the words which I tried at first didn’t work at all well (it was slower and way more frustrating) and what did work best was just exposing myself to the language (in two different ways for two different languages, one by just consuming media of that language whilst the other by living in a country were people spoke the language) and going along with the flow without worrying about the words I didn’t know, so quite a different experience from that.
Anyways, my point isn’t that most people can’t dig down on things by for example going into Wikipedia or that I wouldn’t prefer if they did, it’s that most people either don’t have the time or the inclination to do so, and expecting them to be different is denying human nature.
In my experience with explaining expert domains to non-experts, you have to try and meet them in the middle, which will pull more people in to try and understand it that merely standing fast on my side of the domain language barrier and demand that the climb that mountain to get to me.
That said, some people will never even try, no matter how much effort you put in making it easy for them, and sometimes it’s not even stupidity (which, as something one is born with, it’s kinda excusable, IMHO), it’s just laziness.
I’ve worked with sysadmins all over the world and I agree it’s not just a US problem. Lots of people will remember the exact sequence of steps to accomplish a task, but when something goes wrong they don’t know how to read what’s on screen and adapt to it.
I call all the autopilot people “Listers” aka, they need a list of steps. If anything happens that the steps do not account for, they get stuck and cannot proceed.
I work in IT support and the number of times I’ve gotten a call from a lister who hit a random, benign dialog during a routine process, called me, and I only clicked “ok” to resolve the concern… Well, it’s too damn high.
The fact that we don’t teach people critical thinking and problem solving in standard (and generally mandatory) education, is baffling to me. Education has become a list of things to memorize in order to pass.
I think that’s less due to low intelligence or poor education it’s just being completely out of their depth. I could probably do a car engine rebuild if I had perfect instructions that tell me EXACTLY what to do (and the right tools). But as soon as I got off track I’d be pretty clueless.
Don’t get started on UI updates to their most used programs.
Which other country believes Earth is Flat?
I think the modern flat earth idea started in the UK but I don’t actually know of anyone who believes it, it’s still very much a “village idiot” thing.
Your username 🥺
For the love of God, and all that is holy…
The ones I know have been born-agains.
Which kinda tracks.
If believing one thing with every fibre of your being is your new foundation stone, dismissing another belief that doesn’t contradict your first one can become tricky.
That’s a tiny minority of people and an ultra-specific belief.
I would say that the prevalence of the belief in fairy stories being real (aka Religions, Cults and so on) would be a pretty good indication of just how common and widely spread the Comprehension Handicapped are all over the World.
Even of the literate people, far too few bother reading instructions. People who can read and interpret law texts, but they still click away a pop-up unread when setting up a new phone for example. The only people who I’ve only ever had a good experience with when it came to diligently reading and following instructions + escalating the problem when the instructions were unclear, were professional accountants.
Call communists, they are good at illiteracy elimination.
Wait until he discovers that you can clean the filters at the bottom and get things even cleaner.
Typical Reddit user in 2024.
All the idiot kids we used to make fun of over on /r/SummerReddit are adults now, and the main demographic of the website.
I can’t wait until they discover rinse aid. If your dishes still look dirty no matter how many cycles you run the machine for, then you probably should have refilled the dispenser ages ago.
We had a new washing machine that for the first two washes smelled really bad and made a screeching noise as well. Just before sending it back I noticed that we forgot to remove the styrofoam around the drum…
why I always read the manual like 2 or 3 times
My wife refuses to load the dishwasher because to her she “doesn’t do it right” or “don’t want to fight with it”
So I get OP.
I’ve had to teach people how to mop a floor, and how you should sweep first, it’s just deer in headlights when explaining it. People just don’t go outta their lane to learn new things or fix things that don’t work right.
This guy clearly doesn’t subscribe to technology connections
…or has much common sense—what did he think that thing on the door was all about.
Wait till this guy discovers he should probably use rinse aid and salt too
Edit: oh…and he’s definitely never cleaned the filter
This guy clearly doesn’t subscribe to technology connections
Guys, guys…guys…
LET’S TALK ABOUT HEAT PUMPS!!! :D
Did you know that most central heaters are over sized and inefficient?
Did you know most residential “car chargers” are just glorified extension cords?
Did you know all but one specific brand of LED Christmas lights fucking suck?
Two brands now! He did it!
One of my former room mates had the same problem with the washing machine. They were two compartments and you put the main detergent in the smaller one. In practice it didn’t make much of a difference, but still.
Assuming the other one is for fabric softener, the clothes got agitated with plain water, then soap added during the final rinse. But if you ask my 90 year old uncle, laundry soap is a capitalist scam anyway (their pillow cases feel like they are made of old fashioned oil cloth).
Everyone saying to rtfm has not lived in rental housing with the landlord special dish washer. You can only rtfm when you have tm.
But anyway, putting a bit of soap in with your pre wash isn’t a bad idea. Maybe not a whole tablet but then again, maybe they never thought to look for powdered soap before. I certainly didnt until I watched the technology connections video.
In this day and age, a manual pdf is only a search away. All you need is the model number which should be easy to find for any appliance.
I bought a new Bosch dishwasher this year, we’d been using our old broken one as a place to dry dishes for about 2 years. Supposedly this new one has wifi and whatnot. Only ever pushed the “start” button. Yes, I work in IT. 🤷🏽♀️
I would argue that your career has given you the wisdom to understand how the phrase “just because you can, doesn’t mean you should” applies to technology. So you just instinctively know that a dishwasher doesn’t need a network stack to do the job it was built for. And adding one is creating a lot more complexity for very demising returns.
I refuse to buy a dishwasher with any kind of wifi or network connection in it. This is a hill I will die on. I will wash my clothes with a god-damned washboard before I buy a washing machine with wifi in it.
It’s pretty obvious where they want to take these things. The clothes washer and dish washer companies look at the printer companies with envy. Why do you think they’ve been pushing dish and clothes pods so heavily? Eventually your washing machine or dishwasher will not work off of generic powder or liquid at all. Instead it will only use “cartridges,” plastic boxes maybe the size of 1-lb box of butter. Such a thing would have enough detergent to supply a dishwasher or washing machine for many months. But if they really want to pull the printer game, they need the devices to be wifi enabled so they can let them phone home to keep the DRM working properly.
They are trying to turn dishwashers and clothes washers into printers. That is the ultimate goal of connecting these devices to the net.
