The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don’t think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the “second in command”

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    Not the prettiest instance, but have they caused any real trouble outside of their own instance? Not much of a fediverse if we just defederate from instances that lean different politically. Especially seems like a weird move to go defederating on other instances this early given y’know, that we just got defederated from beehaw because of one misbehaved asshole.

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      I’m not saying we should immediately defederate, but the reason I originally went to check them out was partially because of this comment and the reply from dick@exploding-heads.com

      https://sh.itjust.works/comment/207742

      When he made that reply, it got rapidly upvoted to +7, while my comment was also sitting at about +7. This morning, several hours later, when a bunch of actual sh.itjust.works users woke up and read the thread, the ratio of votes changed in my favor.

      I fear that we are going to deal with a significant level of brigading from that instance, and unlike reddit we don’t really have any tools to combat that.

      They also had a good laugh about the troll who posted here about getting us defederated by beehaw. They really don’t like beehaw, or gay people in general.

      It’s whatever but we are already defederated with lemmygrad.ml and I feel like this stuff is on that same tier.

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        I had a look through their hot-page and couldn’t find anything on the level of lemmygrad. Do you have any examples?

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          https://exploding-heads.com/post/100772

          Many of the trolls on that thread aren’t actually from that server, but they clearly reside in the same dark corner of the internet. But yeah its not really as bad as I thought in terms of needing to defederate, I thought they had over 1k users acting like that but I guess I just replied to the wrong person because the server is mostly dead.

          But I have to say, I’ve never encountered people with such a burning hatred of redditors. Again, it’s whatever but I wouldn’t be bothered if we did defederate.

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            I think we should stay federated with them. They haven’t said anything wrong or bad yet.

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      Being openly bigoted isn’t a “political leaning” though, and it’s against lemmy.world’s code of conduct as stated on the sidebar link: https://mastodon.world/about

      Provide a friendly, safe, and welcoming environment for everyone regardless of gender identity or expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, political affiliation, or other similar characteristic.

      No one is saying let’s ban conservatives. This discussion is about defederating an instance that seems to be crawling with alt-right trolls. I don’t understand why that would be a problem.

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        Like I’d hope that we wouldn’t follow in Reddit’s footsteps of tolerating alt-right bigotry

        Defederating isn’t like being fucking censored or whatever; it’s people deciding that they don’t want to be around you

        Basically near-every instance did this for Lemmygrad with zero complaint, so it’s fucking weird that there are so many people complaining now when it comes to an instance teeming with alt-right bigotry

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          Reddit didn’t tolerate alt-right bigotry. What are you on about?

          And yes, defederating is censorship. I had a burggit account because I liked the name, but then once they got defederated from everything, I needed to make a new account. That’s censorship.

          Lemmygrad, Exploding-Head and Beehaw are all safe-spaces and echo-chambers. They won’t wander outside their zone, which they haven’t. Find it hilarious you’re so huffy about the alt-right, but silent about multiple mods enabling pro-communist content.

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            Do not mistake inconvenience for oppression.

            That is NOT censorship. Everyone on that instance still has every opportunity to say whatever they’d like. Don’t cry over the fact that it’s not reaching as many people as you want it to.

            Obligatory XKCD about this topic.

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              So you’re pro echo-chamber? You also completely disregarded my point about having to make a new account.

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                    …Because how is it censorship?

                    You can literally access all content available on every instance from any account.

                    Making an account is free and takes two minutes, I literally just did it.

                    You can comment on any content you’re federated with from any account.

                    You aren’t being suppressed from speaking at all.

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            how about that whole span of time that r/the_donald was a subreddit lmao

            edit: it’s not censorship if you can easily move to another instance with little difficulty and just continue from there, with most of the same communities even

            people like you just think someone telling them that they don’t want to hear you is the same as being suppressed

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            Yes it did, until media brought attention to it, then they banned The Donald and Metacanada and these users just joined other subs where they spewed their poison with the admin’s blessing in the cases where mods from subs that got banned were also modding other subs that didn’t (metacanada mods also modding Canada).

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              And all of the tankie subreddits were never touched despite having the same content.