• penquin@lemm.ee
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    18 days ago

    There is a huge difference between someone singing lyrics with melody and a nice voice and another who’s just reading those lyrics with flat talking voice. That’s how I look at it. She has a concept of break dancing, but she’s talking reading it… Flat. No talent.
    Edit: another way to think about it is if someone one went into a gymnastics tournament and only did cartwheels the whole time.

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    18 days ago

    I never understood the hate against Raygun. Are there set moves in breakdancing? It’s not like ballet where you have to do very specific things.

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      It’s not just the form but the skill. I can’t dance the macarena to save my life, but when looking at her moves it’s unimpressive from a skill standpoint. Most people have seen more difficult, more coordinated, more agile moves pretty much anywhere on tv. It’s okay, but it’s not Olympics material. And then you hear the rumors that she got in because someone did her a favor, and that’s just unfair. There were other applicants more deserving of that opportunity, not to mention she’s making Australia look corrupt as fuck when it comes to judging their candidates.

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          18 days ago

          It’s easy to win when no one shows up to compete.

          On an unrelated note, her PhD topic is along the lines of obstacles to women in breaking.

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      18 days ago

      Her routine was so unorthodox that many thought she was trolling and that she was not even close to being qualified to even enter. I absolutely loved it. The other athletes were technically superior but I can’t remember a single one of them.

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        18 days ago

        I wish she was trolling. The olympics could use some ridicule for how ridiculous it is.

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        18 days ago

        Honestly…yes. I want to be wow’d. Something out of the ordinary. Break the mold. Make me say, “holy shit”.

        But also I didn’t watch the Olympics because, meh.

        What little footage I’ve seen of her was so unorthodox that I couldn’t help but just say, “hell yeah”.

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      18 days ago

      Tbh, the hate is largely good old fashioned bullying. The rumors of cheating have been completely disproven. She qualified, she knew she was unlikely to win. She’s almost 20 years older than her oldest opponent and this was perhaps her first time competing at that level. Her performance had good parts.

      I think the gleeful bullying is disgusting. Fucking armchair critics.

      Edit: there are specific moves, but it’s largely improvisational. you are judged comparatively against the other b-boy. If you watch the full set the commentators will call them out. her full set

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      It’s like if I somehow got into the olympics for gymnastics and spent my routine doing the hokey pokey, the other athletes would think I’m making fun of them. I think at least, that’s where the hate in the breakdancing community comes from.

      As for wider hate, I don’t recall seeing much, I think online most just thought it was funny as hell.

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      It just looked like she was taking the piss. And or course some into breakdancing thought it made the whole thing into a joke among the general public, which it kinda did.

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      18 days ago

      Its not about cheating is that she kept aloft of talented Australian break dancers out of the process to go to the Olympics. Massive POS!

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      All the comments here miss the fact that she rigged the Australian qualifier, lacks the skill to compete fairly, denying more talented candidates, and thus, did not deserve to be there.

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    I really don’t think Raygun could have thought of a much better scenario than the one she’s living right now. She’s world famous and it’s not like she was going to win any medals anyway. She should take advantage of this situation and just run with it. Write a book, make speeches, do events. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Don’t get all offended about it.

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    17 days ago

    And to think that threating litigation to silence critique and save face was just an American phenomenon.

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    Its actually hard to believe she didnt cheat because just the physical ability is clearly not there, maybe judges had sympathy for her but I’ve seen the person who lost to her in qualifying and they are just objectively better. It would be less embarassing for her if she did cheat really but the truth is probably that it was a reverse-agism

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      18 days ago

      This is the first time the sport is in the Olympics, not a lot of people to compete on locals, so if she knew how to navigate the burocracy she could easily got her spot without cheating.