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    Worm 1 [Healthy] Age 2 quadrums (32000) of Russia Consuming nutrient paste

    Worm 2 [Healthy] Age 1 (41700) of Russia Consuming nutrient paste

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    I love that “Uh, guys?” is a real in-character reaction and moment in many episodes of SG1. This story easily could have been a plot in the show.

    While Star Trek had these wonderful “this is why we explore the galaxy” moments, SG1 wasn’t afraid to place characters face-to-face with something or someone that would just erase existence or end humanity if the next moment wasn’t handled the right way.

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    Worst that there are also unknown Virus and Bacteria found in the Permafrost, which are also defrosted with the Climate change. A lot are also still life…

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        Not less evolved. Just evolved differently for alternative environmental circumstances.

        There is no hierarchy of evolutionary traits. Just an amalgamation of traits that are or are not useful in the current environment. What genetic makeup is effective in one place and time is useless in another, and what was once useless may now be beneficial.

        We have no clue how threatening they could potentially be.

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          Yes and no.

          Ok my last input was a bit lazy hence all the armchair biologists tuning in.

          Less and more evolved is definitely a thing when alluding to the complexity of the system and since evolution is incremental time helps.

          However you are right that adaptability to the environment is the most important thing when defining the success of your “genetic constitution”.

          I guess my point is that we are more likely to have, in our DNA, evolved adaptation to them than they are to have adaptation to circumvent our immunity.

          That being said, yes there are inherent risks to getting those out there, I’m just saying our propensity for enjoying fictional doom scenarios might make us overstate the probability of those occurences.

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          Less evolved as in the product of less evolution. There is such a thing as more and less because more happens over time.

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            Ok, but evolution doesn’t follow a straight path. The ancestors of whales looked like wolves, while whales look, act, and function much more like fish, which those wolf-like pre-whales evolved from way earlier up the line. This is a common misconception about evolution, so don’t feel bad for getting caught in it.

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            To have “more or less” of something implies the effectiveness of the product is directly caused by the metric being measured.

            The amount of time a genotype took to evolve has no bearing on the effectiveness.

            There is no such thing as “more/less evolved”. There is no gradient. Something either is evolved to adapt to its environment or it isn’t.

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              I’m not disagreeing with you here, but wouldn’t it be fair to say there is a gradient, but it is dynamic and defined by the current environment and what it takes to survive it?

              Maybe the goal posta keep moving but we are talking about a very large time scale, so long that, for at least a couple of million years, what could be defined as more or less evolved might seem or be descibed as pretty solid.

              Although i suppose its not fair to say more or less evolved and might be more accurate to say more or less well adapted.

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                The question is more or less adapted to what? An elephant is more adapted than a mouse to the daily activities of an elephant, and vice-versa. An elephant might be more well adapted for our current environment for elephant tasks than, say, a wooly mammoth, but it could just be that the wooly mammoth was actually the more well adapted animal except for being the only megafauna in an area with humans, eventually leading to extinction by hunting. There’s a million and one ways to be adapted to an environment.

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                  But in your example, humans are part of the environment. Or at least they are a factor in your ability to survive. Part of being adapted and being able to survive is surviving your predators. Dont you agree?

                  I dont know if i agree that being adapted to “elephant tasks” is a good marker to measure how adapted elephants are. If an elephant can eat, reproduce, and defend or hide itself from predators or deadly flora or weather, etc, then i would look at the elephant and argue it is well adapted.

                  Unless you think that predators change things or you dont consider humans as predators because we dont always kill for survival.

                  I dunno, im kind of just fleshing this out in my head as we speak.

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        Viruses and bacteria don’t evolve to kill you. They propogate in your system to spread themselves. It’s actually in their best interest to keep you alive, so the more evolved ones would be less deadly because they’ve had more time to dial it in. Not that evolution is something they choose, it’s from mutations that work more or less better.

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        They are investigating it, some million years in the oldest beeings in Earth don’t make evolutive difference to the current ones. The only question is, if they can infect humans or animals or not. The climate change make that all tipe of indesirable things are defrosted, adding more dangerous diseases to the existing ones.

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    Can’t snack on the tomb cheese.
    Can’t slurp the sarcophagus juice.
    Can’t eat ancient worms.
    What is there to live for.

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    A lot of times memes are what they are because they’re harder to fact check (can’t copy and paste text from them). People use them to spread misinformation for fun. -This is actually a confirmed meme though.

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    Are we just looking for imaginative ways to destroy ourselves at this point? We have enough options already! But we have to keep looking for more creative previously unknown ways to kill ourselves.

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      We’ve got to leave something interesting for the alien xeno-archaeologists of the future to uncover.

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        Xeno-archaeologist 1,000 years from now: … yeah … it’s another one … fourth one in this sector … just blew themselves up and destroyed everything for some dumb reason … probably economics like in that last system 35 light years away … too bad … if we had arrived earlier, we could have helped them out … oh well

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          Further research shows that they blew everything up trying to deal with the ancient, insatiable, worms they released on themselves out of curiosity. Upon reflection, it is probably better that we didn’t arrive earlier.

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            Alien #1: … HEY KORG! … look at this! … (picks up human skull and starts comically operating the jawbone) … HEY LOOK AT ME! Imma intelligent species and my economy is more important because I have to pay for these worms … so imma gonna blow up the world for some reason

            KORG: … Stop messing around Kang … this place gives me the creeps, let’s get out of here.

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        Exactly, do you want them to know we polluted ourselves to death? That’s just shameful

        Now, if we accidentally unleashed an ancient parasite? That’s just unfortunate

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      Maybe it’s related to thawing of permafrost and they want to research what to do if all the frozen bugs come back to life