• iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
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    21 hours ago

    Throwing and catching always amaze me. And it’s not something that everyone is always great at, for sure, but anyone can try to toss a wad of paper into the waste basket. Whether or not you make it, the calculations under the hood, happening so quickly, always astound me to think about.

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      19 hours ago

      What’s amazing is our ability to calculate the path of something in the air.

      There’s a test they did with Cristiano Ronaldo where someone kicked a ball to him so he could head it. They shut off the lights before the ball was in the air and somehow from the body shape of the person kicking it, he was able to know how to make contact with it without being able to see it.

      https://youtu.be/0k2ey_okQ4E?t=1255

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        Pretty impressive. I think they’re underestimating/ignoring the input from hearing, especially with the second one where he probably (subconsciously, of course) heard the ball bounce near his foot. Plus the subtle changes in air pressure around his legs to tell where the ball is, etc.

        Cool video, thanks.

        Edit: Still watching as they’re analyzing his free kick. Cool shit. The human body is wild.

        One thing I don’t really see people talk about is how Ronaldo (and other soccer/football players) use their opposing leg to kind of hop up and dissipate any energy that they didn’t transfer into the ball. Fucking cool. You don’t even realize it’s happening.

        I haven’t seen any videos on it, but I remember doing kinematics problems in school involving baseball pitchers and how they throw, and it is actually insane. Each joint and section of the pitcher’s arm is like perfectly timed to provide the most velocity to the projectile. So you add up the momentum from the swinging shoulder to the momentum from the elbow to the momentum from the wrist, to the momentum and spin from the fingertips. Baseball is boring as shit, but the physics behind pitching is cool af.

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      20 hours ago

      I remember when I was younger and would lay on my back throwing a baseball up in the air and catching it, that I could watch it go up and not follow it with my eyes as it goes down and still have my hand in the right spot to catch it

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      22 hours ago

      Read somewhere that catching is actually dead simple, just “move towards the image of the incoming target” (I’m not talking about the arm kinematics).

      There were a robot paper bin that zoomed under stuff you threw up in the air using no complicated algorithms for example.

      Funnily many algos are calked on physical and chemical effects in the real workld, like splines for example were made with a thin metal bar and lead weight bending it to get the lines used in boat hull construction.

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        5 hours ago

        Read somewhere that catching is actually dead simple, just “move towards the image of the incoming target”

        I mean… there is nothing simple about the calculations involved in something like that lol. That’s like countless differential equations per second.

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          4 hours ago

          No, IIRC it was just : film the ball and repetedly do: “is the ball to the left, go left. Is it a little to the left, go little to the left” etc.

          Like a PID but with only the P part. I don’t know if it makes any sense :-)