• MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    7 days ago

    I’m Canadian and can’t vote in any American election.

    I hear more about Trump than I hear about all of our politicians combined.

    I just don’t understand how people can get so excited all the time about this stuff. Like, being so invested in some rich assholes life that you’ll commit treason and break into Congress to wander around aimlessly?

    Why are you like this? Make politics boring again.

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      6 days ago

      And every election, it’ll be saving the world from fascism so we have to vote for Democrats, no matter how far to the right they sprint.

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    That’s the real reason not to re-elect Trump, there’s no way he’ll be relevant again. I mean fuck do you think he’d even alive to run in 2028.

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    As if voting trump out is going to save that shithole. Democrats are not going to install a fascist regime but don’t believe they’ll fix things. The rich will get richer while the poor get poorer (and dumber still)

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    This person makes a great point. It’s amazing how vapid and meaningless our common discourse has become. Long has it been since edifying conversation has been the norm.

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    Trump voters want to talk about making towns safe, permanently removing people who cause problems or don’t play along properly, and make a society where white men to a greater extent can do some kinds of horrible abuse behind closed doors with everyone knowing, most people tolerating it, and only a few authority figures able to do anything about it if they want to or are pressured to.

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    6 days ago

    this is a naive view of the world and honestly kind of insufferable

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    Thinking that Harris is not the same fascist as trump is very naive. all politicians are psycho murderers, or they would not be politicians in the first place

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      That’s such a childish view. The world is not black and white, and neither are politicians. If you can’t figure out the difference between Harris and Trump then I’m not sure you’re mature enough to be talking about politics in the first place. You should learn nuance first.

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      This is a warning, quit it with the rage bait.

      This is going to step up guys, please state your case and then walk away from these types of things. If it’s this particular user, please report any rage baits. The mod tools are crap. I’ll try and remember as well.

      Peak liberal privilege.

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      Imagine being privileged enough to know that another Trump term won’t affect you.

      Imagine not giving a shit about all the women and queer people that will lose their basic human rights, because you know you are safely insulated behind your wealth, sexuality, gender identity, and/or sex.

      Imagine pretending that Trump, who has urged Netanyahu to “Finish the job quickly”, is the less genocidal option in two weeks.

      Peak tankie nonsense.

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        Imagine thinking that Kamala Harris is going to do a thing to claw back the rights of women and queer people or stop murdering Palestinians when she won’t even acknowledge the issues beyond pointing out that roe v wade was overturned because it makes the other side look bad and she only has to have better optics than the other side to get your vote. Nevermind that it happened under her democratic predecessor who also did nothing to stop it while she was vice president.

        Imagine thinking a candidate, when their power is no longer at stake, is going to magically stop pandering to conservatives and stop taking progressive votes for granted, when they’re already setting up to blame those same progressives for their campaign strategy; of abandoning their base in both messaging and policy at every possible opportunity and just being generally feckless; failing miserably.

        Imagine the polls being this close against donald fucking trump who has a mountain of evidence that you can use against him, clear strategies and talking points to counter message against, a significant number of his own voters having voluntarily defected from him with no further convincing needed, and not having a single moment of introspection on your own party’s initiative or lack thereof to guarantee their victory by throwing a single material bone to their left wing and engaging the working class through positive reinforcement rather than fear campaigns that disillusion voters and depress outcome all the way down the ticket.

        Imagine thinking there aren’t any actors seeking to negate any leverage that you have as a class by letting your candidate take your vote for granted instead of being pressured to give you anything more than the hopefully maybe bare minimum to win exactly 51% of the electoral college.

        No no lets just blame voters for being irrational actors influenced by “tankie nonsense” and Russian bots that definitely only stoke one side and aren’t just sowing general discord so americans will reject their class interests in favor of culture wars. That’s not a convenient or shallow or played out explanation with any historical analog that suppresses engaging with logic at all, and actually is evidence that can justify only one true reality with definitely only the most genuine and non-trumpian of intentions or obvious conclusions. It’s actually the most rational explanation of real true and objective reality I think.

        Oh and if you disagree with me you love Trump and think he should be president again and Palestine should be wiped off the map and I will just say this over and over again in different ways of varying length instead of actually engaging with any of your arguments because for some reason I assume that saying it enough times will mean the argument is settled and I win.

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        When you find yourself saying words like “the less genocidal option”, you should stop and think what brought you here.

        Don’t vote for less genocide. Vote for no genocide. Vote Stein.

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      There’s more than a couple reasons a lot of westerners don’t really see Gazans as victims, some of them aren’t even racism.

      Would be way easier to argue their case if October 7th didn’t go the way it did.

      It was just a really bad decision.

      I’m personally in favor of cutting ties with Israel as well, considering they’ve strayed so far away from civility and are indeed killing a shitload of people. But I have very little compassion for the people of Gaza, given what they largely want and support. They want to fight and thresh and kill until one side is dead and gone, and we all know which side that will be. Everyone knows, except them.

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        It was just a really bad decision.

        Hamas made that decision, not the Palestinian people. Just like the executive branch is choosing to send over more weapons, not the US people.