• BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee
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    7 days ago

    we need a clean, biodegradable version of vapes. maybe use some form of paper? and instead of juice just use the actual leaves from the tobacco plant

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      7 days ago

      Why paper? Why not just use the leaves?

      And instead of pasteurizing it and adding a bunch of chemicals, we just let it sit and develop on its own? Naturally fermented like everything else that tastes complex and amazing?

      We just invented cigars.

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        6 days ago

        And pipe tobacco! I have a collection of tobacco blends I’m aging.

        Use my vape (with rechargeable batteries) for addiction maintenance.

        Tobacco is too pleasurable a luxury to give up. Harm reduction is the way to go for me.

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        7 days ago

        It would fuck up the environment with butts like it always has. Cigs are shit for the environment, birds eat them and die and they’re everywhere. Can’t wait for them to completely die out.

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            6 days ago

            Pipe tobacco is amazing. It can be very complex after aging.

            The average pipe smoker lives longer than the average non smoker.

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                If it’s true, it’s likely socioeconomic. Relatively expensive start up cost, bag or tin of pipe tobacco usually costs more than a pack of cigarettes. Tends to select for wealthier users with better healthcare.

                It’s not inhaled so the cancer risk is lower than cigarettes. But, yeah, it’s not healthy.

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            • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
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              6 days ago

              My grandfather would not disagree with you but then he’s dead from lung cancer.

              • Machinist@lemmy.world
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                6 days ago

                Sorry for your loss. FWIW, pipe smoke isn’t inhaled and has much lower cancer rates than cigarette smoking. It’s lower risk, not no risk.

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                6 days ago

                Thems fighten words. I don’t smoke any churchwardens. Among pipe smokers, you’re usually dealing with a particular type of socially tone deaf nerd when they smoke a churchwarden and start talking about pipe weed. You need to be at least 60 and fully grey to pull off a churchwarden.

        • BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee
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          7 days ago

          I absolutely hate the fact that we as a society just agreed that cigarette butts aren’t garbage, because then you have to argue with smokers. Some day people look back and make fun of these assholes