• MystikIncarnate@lemmy.caEnglish
      200·
      1 年前

      I remember reading about this. He was actually lost, in that he strayed from his trail and didn’t immediately know how to return.

      Rescuers were alerted because a family member had reported him missing after he didn’t arrive home on time.

      As the story goes, to the best of my recollection, the “lost” individual went for a hike and said they would be back before sundown. When they got lost, they obviously missed that deadline. They were biding their time in the forest until daybreak to try to find the trail to get back because it was too dark to look for it. So while he was “lost” it was mainly because the sun had gone down. He didn’t feel like he was in any danger, and wasn’t at any risk of immediately being harmed or killed; AFAIK they were reasonably familiar with that forest and they were more than capable of surviving in those conditions; so he had no motivation to seek help.

      TL;DR: guy didn’t feel like he needed help.

    • blaine@kbin.social
      494·
      1 年前

      He was probably afraid to call for help due to the insane prices the search and rescue folks charge. Might have wanted to wait another day or two to be sure he was really lost before calling for help.

        • notacat@mander.xyz
          241·
          1 年前

          It’s a U.S. thing! Yay! You can buy insurance for it if you do a lot of backpacking but that’s rare. I believe it’s in the five figures for a rescue. But apparently occasionally it can be free if you’re lucky enough to get rescued by the one agency whose name I forget.

          • Klear@sh.itjust.works
            17·
            1 年前

            But apparently occasionally it can be free if you’re lucky enough to get rescued by the one agency whose name I forget.

            MIB?

        • Punkie@lemmy.world
          5·
          1 年前

          A childhood friend of mine had to sign a waiver in New Zealand because her and her team were climbing down some canyon notoriously hard to get to except by rescue helicopter. She got stuck, and the rest of the team went to go get help. She paid $58,000 in 1990s money for the rescue. So it’s not just the US.

        • baltakatei@sopuli.xyz
          2·
          1 年前

          It depends on the state and payment is more likely required if local officials deem you negligent or if youʼre a part of a common pattern in that location (e.g. Floridians visiting southern Utah every winter and getting themselves stuck in cliffs).

          States with laws allowing search and rescuers to charge for rescuing them, according to this 2021-10-06 New York Times article titled “You Got Lost and Had to Be Rescued. Should You Pay?”:

          • Hawaii
          • Idaho
          • Maine
          • New Hampshire
          • Oregon
          • South Dakota
          • Vermont

          God help you if your rescuers call you an air ambulance, though.

        • books@lemmy.world
          3·
          1 年前

          In all fairness. The USA has some fucking gnarly terrain and is sparsely populated.

          Sending out a chopper team to get you off a cliff face isn’t cheap and is completely self inflicted, so I kinda get why they charge you for that.

          Getting cancer on the other hand, shouldn’t bankrupt you.

  • ox0r@jlai.luEnglish
    1021·
    1 年前

    If it’s important, they’ll leave a message. Otherwise it’s just another scam anyway

  • Designate@lemmy.ml
    931·
    1 年前

    As someone who does not answer unknown numbers I am laughing and also cringing

  • LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    80·
    1 年前

    If I pick up, then they know its a real number and I get added to a hundred more lists. Its taken me years of diligently ignoring the world to get to the point where i only get a couple of spam calls a day. I might not answer, either.

    • jackoneill@lemmy.world
      291·
      1 年前

      I have 2 numbers, my direct cell that only family and close friends know, and my business line that I give out like candy. Business line is simply a virtual line that goes to an auto attendant that I this is si and so from whatever company, dial 1 to ring my cell or dial 2 to leave a voicemail. If you don’t hit a number it hangs up after 30 seconds. No more spam. Of course, some REALLY dumb clients think I’m sending them straight to voicemail because they don’t listen, but that’s it’s own kind of filter that I also appreciate

    • zagaberoo@beehaw.org
      5·
      1 年前

      I always answer, and I still only occasionally get spam calls. I wonder whether I’m just very lucky or if wasting their time consistently gets you put on lists of a different kind.

  • R0cket_M00se@lemmy.worldEnglish
    62·
    1 年前

    It has nothing to do with social fear, every fucking call on my personal and work phone is a scam.

    Get that shit under control and then maybe I’ll answer my cell phone once in awhile lol

    Though if I was really lost I think I’d be answering every call tbh.

    • rusticus@lemm.ee
      3·
      1 年前

      This has the making of a hilarious movie. Trying to convince the car warranty guy to save your ass from wild animals.

  • Surreal@programming.dev
    541·
    1 年前

    I wish people texted after failing to call me. I don’t answer calls from unknown numbers either but if you know me then text me so I know it’s not a spam number

    • mkwarman@lemmy.mkwarman.comEnglish
      152·
      1 年前

      I agree, but I still have this idea that it’s rude to text people unless you have gotten permission first. I think it’s a relic from the 2000s-2010s when not everyone’s phone had texting and if you did text them they could get charged by their phone provider. Obviously nowadays that’s much less of a concern, but still feels like a social grey area for some reason

      • die444die@lemmy.worldEnglish
        18·
        1 年前

        It is completely opposite to that in my circles. It would be weird to call people without texting them first. In fact, one of my best friends texted me to ask if he could call me.

        • mkwarman@lemmy.mkwarman.comEnglish
          3·
          1 年前

          That definitely makes sense too, particularly when making new friends in my age group. I guess it’s just when contacting people for business vs social communications? I’m not sure

    • jlow (he/him)@beehaw.org
      4·
      1 年前

      Yeah, but then you’d get a text from that unknown number asking you to call them back without saying who they are, either 👌 Source: I know people.

  • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
    552·
    1 年前

    The telephone network is practically useless because we don’t have any authentication to it anymore.

    When the phone company had to do something to physically connect a wire to a building, it was sufficient. But that I can download any number of apps that lets me war dial an entire continent pretending to be just anyone? Yeah the phone network isn’t secure enough for the average user.

    • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      1 年前

      It never really was secure. You could always set the Caller ID on an outgoing PRI trunk to whatever you wanted with any of the phone systems in the last half century. It isn’t validated.

        • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          1 年前

          I had a little touchtone dial pad I could put up to the mouthpiece and dial through with. It was sweet

      • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
        31·
        1 年前

        It was when you had to ask the nice lady to connect you. That’s what happens when you remove all the infrastructure jobs.

  • Ajen@sh.itjust.works
    51·
    1 年前

    I remember this article… He went for a hike and didn’t tell his roommates when he would be back. He didn’t answer their calls (I’m assuming he needed some time alone), and was gone for more than 24 hours so they reported him missing. He just wanted some time away from his roommates and they put him the the national news.

    • ArtisinalBS@lemm.ee
      121·
      1 年前

      In what imaginary world you’re living that you have data in the middle of nowhere?

      • quarrk [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        401·
        1 年前

        You should have GPS without any service at all. You might need data for the map to load, depends on the app. If you’re lucky and the app automatically cached it when you had signal, or you manually downloaded the offline map, then you could navigate home in airplane mode.

        All of this is moot because I think I remember reading the rest of this story. The hiker wasn’t really lost, they simply went on a hike without telling anyone, and ignored calls during that time because they were trying to unplug.

  • PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works
    16·
    1 年前

    Something similar, if less life threatening, happened to me. My car had been stollen a while back and I avoided the random call from an area code 50+ miles away. Turns out it had been the cops from that area telling my they found my (stripped) vehicle. Impound lot ended up getting the car AND overnight parking fees. Absolute racket.