• geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlOP
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    Germany is upset about this because they sell cars to China. This will probable create Chinese counter tariffs on European cars.

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      because they sell cars to China

      For how much longer? Can German cars even still compete with the Chinese, or has that ship sailed already? Come, buy the best engineering of yesteryear! Yay!

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      Germany oligarchs are imbiciles who cornrred German economy into being a Russian pappet…

      When Merkel was advised about these risks by us and Poland, we were mocked within Germany is “old idiots”

      Now these same elites are hoping Ukraine shot blows over so they can go back to sucking Putin’s dick for gas.

      Germany was so unreliable that US had to blow that fucking pipeline to send a msg to the German nazi napo baby regime.

      Can’t make this shit up… European geopolitics are still as clown as ever.

      Dead Ukrainians is a small price to pay for cheap gas!

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        Creating an economic incentive is known for sane country leaders to hesitate to attack their business partner. Sadly Putin isn’t sane.

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        Russian gas was a cheap way for Germany to produce. The short term economic effects were more important to Merkels electability than any long term plans.

        When it comes to gas, Russia never shut off the tap. Instead it was America who blew up the Nordstream energy supply to garner support for a wider war. But now China is producing on cheap Russian gas

        At least Germany appears to heavily invest in green energy since Norstream blew up. Bless the sun for shining everywhere.

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          We did not blow up nordstream.

          If we had 1/10th of those balls the world wouldn’t be in this shape, I wish to God we had.

          Germany is in for 2 lost decades, shutting down nuclear was a mistake, but energy isn’t the only issue, Germany needs more workers or they need to fully commit to automation, which they haven’t quite yet.

          China is now crippled with Russia as an ally. That’s about the best strategic success you can expect in IR, take the win.

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              Your second link agrees with me, it was Ukraine. The mad fuckers pulled it off, we might have helped but even that is more than I’d imagine, our administration is timid AF when it comes to Ukraine and any kind of direct or even covert action.

              I get why you’d be furious, but they were defending their homeland, and let’s be honest, yours too, if Ukraine had fallen Putin and Xi would have felt they could ask for a lot and we know how that road goes.

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                I fully support Ukrainian independence but it is being used as a proxy war between the US and Russia right now. They went from a Russian dictator in 2014 to Zelensky now.

                America vetoeing the 2022 peace talks to send more Ukrainians into the meat grinder tells it all. At some point a diplomatic solution must be reached. Support is already fading and the only thing this prolonged war has achieved is the death of more Ukrainians and Russians (and profits for Raytheon)