From 3000 daily active users on June 1, 2023 to 47500 on June 26, 2023.
According to Lemmy’s documentation, “An active user is someone who has posted or commented on our instance or community within the last given time frame.”
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It is very clear that new content per day has been steadily increasing the past 14 days.
Lemmy is no longer just promising, it is already good. With signs of getting even better.
With more active users, more niche communities should soon be able to do fine too.
I already didn’t read past the first few hundred comments on reddit- Lemmy already feels almost as good to use, way more than mastodon did coming from Twitter.
Mastodon is simply not as good. Lemmy achieves its objectives very cleanly and seems to leverage ActivityPub the best in the fediverse by far.
Twitter is also focused around individuals. Reddit around communities. I believe different dynamics of those two are why Lemmy works better.
Watching the last 3 weeks has been exciting. Dead subs springing to life & much more content. New subs every single day.
I’m gonna comment so as to be counted as active.
Brilliant.
i opened up this thread with the intention of doing just that— glad to see i’m not the only one lol
Reporting in
I’m not.
Hey me too!
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It’s not much. But it’s honest work.
Hello there
So not even counting the lurkers
Yeah, lurkers aren’t counted. Only those who have commented or posted within a specified period.
Worth noting we probably have a much higher engagement percentage than the average atm. Young community, cool new idea, gets people excited. Since the service isn’t really ready for primetime yet, the only way to really pitch in and even just vent enthusiasm is to make content. For most of us that don’t have dev skills anyway.
Is there some metrics showing number of users with interactions like upvote/downtote?
Now this is a metric I can get behind, instead of the million bot accounts
Upping the active count, no lurking for me
Finally I know what counts as an active user thank you!
Oh so lurkers aren’t counted as active? That’s even promising since many users on any site never comment or post.
Indeed! That would be me, but I would now like to contribute to the totals so I am contributing this fairly worthless comment!
Another relatively useless comment! Just to contribute :)
I’ve probably posted as much in Lemmy in a couple weeks as I did on reddit in several years, but as the say, be the change you want to see.
Here’s my contribution!
Yeah I lurk for the most part, but I’d like to contribute to some subs someday with the projects I’m working on!
Every now and then lurkers have to prove we’re still here
Here ya go.
Okay, here’s my first comment.
I think it shows that the great migration from Reddit is actually happening. After the 1st of July, we can expect to see Lemmy growing even more since the changes on Reddit are gonna be in full effect.
Agreed. I imagine the devs and admins here are looking at it as a bit of a deadline of sorts. It’s going to be a big bump in traffic, best to have as much as you can in place.
If you can have useable app out by then, you’ll get a big sudden surge in interest. It’s just a really nice opportunity for an aspiring dev.
I’m really trying, the main thing I miss is the amount of content and the general navigability of reddit. Finding new subs was so easy and lemmy feels harder to just browse imo. I’ve moved to the lemmy RSS and deleted my reddit bookmarks to help keep me from going there out of weakness though.
We’ll see to what degree the migration stays/works. I would be very happy to see some competition in this space.
https://lemmyverse.net/communities
Also native search works pretty well https://sh.itjust.works/search?q=cat&type=Communities&listingType=All&page=1&sort=TopAll
These should help. Definitely agree about the amount of content. There’s a lot of subs that haven’t even migrated over yet.
I think it’s going to be rough for sometime but the numbers seem promising thus far.
Particularly when compared to any other reddit alterative.
It is a bit harder due to fragmentation but it will get better, don’t worry. Also plenty of new upcoming apps.
Replying from connect for Lemmy, that just got approved on the play store. Not sure if it’ll be my endgame app but looks snazzy enough. I look forward to trying a few different ones, and to seeing the general functionality get better around here.
This is great and exciting news, but we do need to keep things in perspective. Jumping to almost 48,000 daily active users is great, but Reddit has about 55 million. That’s essentially a rounding error as far as Reddit is concerned.
People keep wishing death upon Reddit. I understand the emotion, but I wish Reddit a long life. Let it be the grease trap for doomscrollers, reposters, and political and corporate infiltration. I don’t want millions of people to join Lemmy. I want the mythical 1% active content creators to jump ship.
Yeah, Reddit and 4chan can be containment cesspits while quality discussion moves to Fedi.
I’m curious what the make up of people migrating are. It could be the early adopters that helped Reddit build out the platform ahead of Digg collapsing. It could also be people who were looking for an excuse to leave because they didn’t really like Reddit for one reason or another. I think I fall more in the fed up with Reddit and looking for anyone/anywhere doing it better.
I don’t really see a problem with this. We already have enough that I can comment an engage with people. I can already ask a question and have 50 people give genuine thought out responses.
That’s enough for me.
We’re only on v0.18, some are not going to want a less refine product and that’s okay. We’re here building the momentum for when it’s read for them.
I don’t disagree necessarily, I just think anyone expecting a mass migration should temper their expectations.
I won’t use the official Reddit app, so my phone Reddit usage will drop to zero on July 1st.
To be honest, i am using reddit via Apollo and lemmy but as soon as that shuts down im transitioning to lemmy full time.
I’m on some cracked official Reddit app that has the ads fully removed. I am not sure if it will still work afterwards but switching to Lemmy anyway.
this keeps getting touted but isn’t it a huge number of bots causing the rise?
Bots have inflated the total users count (around 2.4 million), but they aren’t active (yet). So for now active users is a recommended way to measure the fediverse. But once bots start posting, we’ll have to find another way to track real user activity.
This is just really disappointing and gross. Is there any way to not have bots absolutely everywhere?
Yeah, it’s absolutely disappointing and gross. Bots have been actively probing for obscure instances without registration validation and flocking to them. Good thing the top real lemmy instances (like lemmy.world, lemmy.ml, beehaw.org, sh.itjust.works, lemmy.ca) have been much more vigilant about that.
Are those instances defederating from the bot-filled ones?
Yeah, those instances are defederating from the bot-filled ones, but new ones are still popping up (although seems to be slowing down a little for now).
I hope there’s some way to block that, bots are useful or funny sometimes (like the ones to download videos, reminders, etc). But I asume most of them have the sole purpose of advertising or brigading.
I can’t wrap my head about Lemmy 0.18 dropping capchas.
Which is a shame, because in theory it seems like creating a self-hosted instance for your personal account has a lot of advantages (not worrying about the host doing something screwy or abandoning the instance, having full control over who you federate with, being able to customize the interface, etc.)
But that may end up going the way of self-hosted email servers, where differentiating yourself from a spam server becomes impossible and everyone ends up on the equivalent of gmail.
If we have the ability to identify them or where they’re coming from, could our various platforms just defederate or block the ones who aren’t dealing with the bot problem down the line?
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What’s your take on it?
My (different person here) take is it’s probing behavior. Who benefits? Anti-reddit-protest trolls want to see this fail, and some could have the resources. Savvy criminal organizations see potential profit. Major tech companies see at least a research opportunity at minimal expense. White hats want to find and raise awareness of vulnerabilities.
Only governments would really have no major motive beyond the usual surveillance of a social space. So I think the question should really be, who’s not doing it? Because if people aren’t wholesale fucking around yet, they’ll start very soon. It’s only the savvy or lucky that are aware of us still, but that will not be true for long. Snowball is rolling now, that’s pretty plain to see.
I mean, we’re just a big and growing pile of consumers. What else do you do with those?
I don’t see how that could be done, the bot owners can always just spin up their own new instance where they control sign up requirements.
Other instances can then defederate from the spam instance but they can quickly spin up a new one.
Gonna be interesting to see how it’s solved.
Require that membership in the Fediverse be approved?
The fediverse is decentralized, anyone can start their own lemmy/kbin/mastodon/whatever server and make an account they just approve themselves.
If you mean some kind of global approval then that destroys the whole point of the fediverse.
wait how did we conclude that the bots aren’t active yet?
Because people have been monitoring bot infected instances and have not seen them post or comment (yet).
My understanding is that’s causing the rise in accounts (2.5m!) not the active accounts data
Everyone online is a bot except you.
Beep boop
They made the general user number explode for sure, but those bots are not really active yet, so they don’t count as “active users”.
If they’re like NewsUser and Botittest, the bots will flood this place when they start. Even though these two good bots have made this place a lot more usable, it feels like that’s what the “All” thread has become. Just news.
Don’t get me wrong, I like the news feed, but now I understand why it became a separate thread in Reddit.
Whichever the instances that lowered their guard were, there will be a day they will have to be defederated. It’ll be a test for this place, for sure.
So active users doesn’t include users who are only browsing/voting on posts? If so that’s even more impressive.
This seems like very important information worth sharing in general but also wherever these stats are posted including in the software itself (via (?) or tooltip).
It also means that the real number of active users, which includes lurkers, is actually higher.
I still think the majority of registered users are bots though. I don’t think we have actually have 2,000,000 people on here.
What’s a good estimate of lurkers? 10% of actives? 200% of actives?
No one is in disagreement that bots are the majority of registered users.
I’m a little bit of a lurker yes. I comment when I think I can add something to the discussion, but I usually like to read more than I contribute unfortunately.
Just been lurking until now but I guess we can +1 that active user count. Just waiting for sync to add a lemmy app and then it’s full steam ahead.
Sync for Lemmy should drop in a few days. You should subscribe to the Sync dev’s official community for it: https://lemmy.world/c/syncforlemmy
Sync is reddit to me, so when it goes down I can’t see myself going back. I set up a Lemmy account yesterday and am impressed so far knowing it’s still in the early stages. I’m excited to see what LJ can do with Lemmy.
Then you should subscribe to LJ’s official Sync for Lemmy community: https://lemmy.world/c/syncforlemmy
Giving this place a shot… Can’t be worse than Reddit
It certainly is better than Reddit, although that’s not exactly hard to achieve to be fair.
That’s how I feel. Hopefully it’ll be better.
It’ll definitely be better than Reddit. Reddit has honestly gotten pretty terrible in the last few years. Fediverse may have its flaws but it’s still better than what Reddit has become (and ultimately what Reddit’s for-profit wannabes will become).
People say the real migration will happen on July 1st, but people can’t move if they don’t know where the apps are going.
Link people to Sync for Lemmy and Liftoff for Lemmy (already usable) on Android
and Memmy for Lemmy (already usable) for those on iOS.
Connect for Lemmy is in the Play store and not bad.
Thunder and Summit are also pretty good suggestions for Android.
I would link people to https://lemmy.world/post/465785
I’m currently using Jerboa on android. Anything stand out that Thunder or Summit do better that’s worth me taking a look at?
Mostly the interface. I think it’s more a preference thing than an objective aspect
I doubt many people will move. Most people will just start using the official app or move to another website. Lemmy doesn’t have much content (yet), and that’s yet worse than not having a good app. They will just quick look and go back, if even.
At this point content is definitely needed more than users. I really to stick with lemmy but the content just isn’t here… Like you said (yet)
Those Reddit echo bots are really starting to annoy me now too.
I’m still hopeful though, I don’t want to go back to Reddit
I rarely posted content on reddit, but I engaged a lot.
I realized that once I got here, I needed to post content if I wanted to encourage others to do the same.
We need both content and engagement. Engagement drives the content, it’s a feedback loop.
Yeah same. I’m a commenter at heart. But, writing is a skill, so it translates into a few things I can post about that might be of value to others.
