Discord is not something that is easily indexable or linkable. Which means you have to rely on other people if you aren’t part of it. This is a huge issue as anything can be faked

They absolutely should make announcements here, but I think it’s a matter of people attacking them all of the time. We have to give them a lot of credit for handling so many ddos attacks, someone really doesn’t want this place to exist. Imo, let’s give them a chance to talk about it and not make this a bigger deal than it is. This is a volunteer site and instance, not a billion dollar company so go easy.

Or secondarily I’d say Mastodon. They have an account but never post anything there.

They tried to. It was down at the time though.

How would they make a post about a lemmy.world outage on lemmy.world

I happened to catch a message on Matrix from @ruud@lemmy.world that he didn’t like the way mentions work when you’re offline and lots of messages build up, but I didn’t realize that meant discord was replacing matrix, especially for community notices.

Add me to the list of folks who won’t use discord.

Not even probably, there is.

Probably? Nah, they legit advertise what their users do. Seemingly increasingly so.

Discord has “drops” (in beta for over a year now to be fair as it wasn’t super popular), aka the status snippet that shows when and what app you’re using gets shared with developers. Basically, what you do on your system gets logged. You can opt out of that, of course, but still they do collect it. Pretty sure they also stored calls and screen recordings at some point (for convenience reasons of course), but there are now too many users for that. At least, I think they no longer do that. But every single thing you type into discord is logged and can be traced back to you with perfect accuracy.

Also there is Matrix as a direct federated replacement for discord. No reason not to use it.

EDIT: After doing a bit more digging, it’s not running on activitypub so not compatible wit the fediverse, but it does run on a federated model.

Although given that both are open protocols, it should in theory be possible to write an adaptor or an update to make them compatible.

EDIT 2: nope lol

Edit 3: idk why I let myself be mislead and I don’t remember what I looked up, but Matrix specifically says it is federated: https://spec.matrix.org/latest/

With my very limited understanding of it, I believe Discord was something mostly for “as we are down so much, you can get updates here if we are down”.

Got banned recently from their Discord server by [I’m assuming] me calling out their announcement/decision a clownery (which it actually is, because why make a announcement community when you’re not informing your userbase), ngl it’s mildly infuritating…

What even is not a good look is I didn’t really receive a notice that I got banned there…

Edit: phrasing

Making announcements to somewhere you have to log in to see is the problem. You can’t see Discord chats unless You’re logged in.

There is a lot of FOSS stuff communicating over twitter… Even The Linux Foundation has a twitter account.

But lemmy.world should primarily communicate via lemmy imo…

lemmy.world it’s not “lemmy”

Where you need to have an account just to see the announcement, none the less.

I mean, I can see it if it was used as a backup, but yeah, using it as a primary way of communicating with people is kind of weird.

If the intention is to have an internal, instance-only post, I believe such a thing could be enforced with an automoderator bot. I had a lot of success throwing the Lemmy API into an AI and generating my own moderator bot from that. Could work for you.

As an admin you can use your special admin powers to pin posts.

I would like Lemmy to have a “don’t defederate” or “only internal votes” checkbox for server-only posts, though.

In theory you could also drop external votes for an a community. Here’s an SQL query I quickly threw together to select all upvotes submitted to a community that don’t come from the server the community is hosted on:

select post_like.id, community_id, community.actor_id, voter.actor_id 
    from post
    inner join community on community.id = post.community_id
    inner join post_like on post_like.post_id = post.id
    inner join person voter on (
        voter.instance_id != community.instance_id and voter.id = post_like.person_id)
    where community.id = ?

You’ll need to change select...from to delete from to wipe the votes from the database. I imagine it’ll take a while to complete, but on smaller servers it should be feasible? You could also add something like and post_like.score = - 1 to only delete downvotes.

What is the problem with getting down votes ? Visibility? I thought Lemmy supported pinned posts.

You mean just like a specific recent post on our main about defederating another instance being drowned out by members of said instance :)

Sh.itjust.works uses matrix like any normal lemmy instance would.

Why should announcements happen in a real time chat anyway? Lemmy is actually best suited for announcements.

Matrix is a piece of hot garbage on the UX front. Maybe when Matrix stops sucking so hard it can take matter out of galactic core black holes it can be taken seriously as a platform.

Coins incoming! :)

Just kidding. So much drama, needs some comic relief and this is all I had.

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