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      It is well documented that many political-influence organizations have extensive social-media-fakery arms, and I’m absolutely certain that most of them have as their #1 priority from now until November to get Trump elected. And Trump is clearly a pile of elephant shit in human skin, so going after Biden for a variety of random bullshit (or just talking down the whole concept of democracy in general) is their best angle of attack.

      It’s not self-evident that they’ve discovered Lemmy, but I feel confident at this point that they have. And if they have, it would be weird if they decided on posting only, that voting was a red line they didn’t want to cross.

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        It’s not self-evident that they’ve discovered Lemmy, but I feel confident at this point that they have.

        Yes, how else can you explain the unpopularity of two pro-genocide candidates? Must be a conspiracy! Everyone loves Biden!

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          Biden being unpopular here would make sense. I think it’s safe to say that this is a leftist community and the Democrats aren’t all that left; I don’t know anyone on the American left who’s really happy about anyone in politics (except maybe for Bernie Sanders) even when they’re not giving aid to someone who’s actively starving and shelling children.

          I say I’m confident that there’s a big shilling operation on Lemmy because the behavior of the accounts doesn’t make sense. They don’t want to talk about Ranked Choice Voting. They don’t want to talk about going to the Palestine protest. They don’t want to talk about Ralph Nader or the Green Party, except every so often as a little aside about how voting is a waste of time but it you do then at least vote IDK whatever Green Party or something.

          It’s like if in 2016, instead of /r/sandersforpresident, there was /r/hondurashillary and they spent all their energy shitting on Hillary (for extremely valid reasons they would have had), and saying they weren’t planning on voting at all because all the Democrats Bernie Sanders included were just bad, as a rule, because they’re Democrats. I’ve straight-up asked some of these people, what do you think about this or that leftist issue, what can I do to help make the voting system better, and no one has an answer. The reasons not to vote for Biden are super passionate and super polished. The reasons to do anything else? Who cares. I don’t know. Let’s get back to what’s really important: Not voting for Biden. That’s what I’m here to talk about today. And, they seem genuinely not to give a shit if people don’t like them – like OP posting come rain or come shine several comically transparent anti-Biden stories, every single day, like it’s… well, like it’s his job.

          Also, they slip sometimes. They say “Democrat Party.” They make little fumbles about American history that I don’t think would come from a native American. They have odd little mannerisms that you can notice if you watch them closely. IDK, maybe that gets into tinfoil hat territory, but I will say for myself that there are a bunch of particular accounts that I’m extremely convinced are part of an organized effort to influence the discourse.

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            I say I’m confident that there’s a big shilling operation on Lemmy because the behavior of the accounts doesn’t make sense.

            You have an overinflated sense of the importance of lemmy.

            They don’t want to talk about Ranked Choice Voting.

            Because it’s a fucking pipe dream that does nothing about the current election, which is the subject at hand.

            They don’t want to talk about Ralph Nader or the Green Party

            Yes, no one wants to talk about someone whose political relevance ended in 2000. It must be a massive international conspiracy.

            I’ve straight-up asked some of these people, what do you think about this or that leftist issue, what can I do to help make the voting system better, and no one has an answer.

            Because thy know it’s not getting better, and Democrats are taking advantage of a broken system. Bein’ like “what are you gonna do about the problem we created and perpetuate?” is just gloating.

            The reasons not to vote for Biden are super passionate and super polished.

            “I can’t rebut my opponent’s arguments” is not evidence of a conspiracy.

            Who cares. I don’t know. Let’s get back to what’s really important: Not voting for Biden. That’s what I’m here to talk about today

            Is OP doing that? Am I?

            And, they seem genuinely not to give a shit if people don’t like them – like OP posting come rain or come shine several comically transparent anti-Biden stories, every single day, like it’s… well, like it’s his job.

            One guy posts poll results you don’t like. Must be a paid shill.

            IDK, maybe that gets into tinfoil hat territory, but I will say for myself that there are a bunch of particular accounts that I’m extremely convinced are part of an organized effort to influence the discourse.

            Yes, I’d say it does. Disagreeing with you is not evidence of some massive conspiracy to influence the election through a fledgling platform full of stubborn centrists.