• GoddessOfGouda@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Rape charges don’t materialize from thin air. If she reported it then yes, fuck Jake not because of his penis, but because he did not obtain consent.

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        10 months ago

        So charge the woman with rape charges as well. It’s either both were raped or neither were. He was drunk and she took advantage of him.

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          Did he wake up and think, “oh damn, I didn’t want to have sex last night”? If so, then yes, charge her. If not, then once again, he is in the wrong.

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            Are you really trying to say women can’t be trusted with their actions when drinking? You want men to make all their decisions for them? You can’t be a real person.

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            Look. It’s pretty clear that you’ve had some trauma but that’s nobody’s fault here. We have a right to free discourse without having to suffer your issues. Wish you well.

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              10 months ago

              What is the point of this comment? I have never been raped, if that is what you’re implying. I’m capable of empathizing with victims of rape

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              Nah, I empathize with victims of rape. I urge them to report it when it happens. If you think that’s insane, well, says more about you than it does me

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                This isn’t empathy it’s a weird bit you’re trying to pull that’s intentionally misunderstanding or misrepresenting made up scenarios in which drunk people had sex.

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                  10 months ago

                  Sorry you’re perceiving it that way, but no, you’re wrong.

                  I know you want me to be like “oh no poor guy, men have it so hard in the dating world” but I’m not…. I don’t feel sorry for guys who get charged with rape — it’s a simple concept: don’t rape. Don’t assault.

                  It’s funny that the people on this post have such a problem with that.

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        It’s the gross assumption that the man won’t regret his actions. Or that he wouldn’t be shamed and ridiculed just for trying to claim he didn’t want it.

        You do better.

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          lol what? Literally what, a dozen times now? I’ve said if he was raped, he should report it. Stop putting words in my mouth lol

          you do better, rape sympathizer.

          This thread is full of prepubescent teen boys who seem to think “mens rights” are under attack and that rape is edgy. Y’all are absolutely insane, and I think it’s very telling that you continue to try to make me seem like the bad person here. Make no mistake: it’s y’all lol

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            I’ve said if he was raped, he should report it. Stop putting words in my mouth lol I think you should stop putting words in your own mouth. Either you’re intentionally trolling or a blatant misandrist.

            He was drunk, therefore she didn’t get consent. So she did rape him. Period.

            However, you and I both know if he tried to report it, it is a near certainty that it would go nowhere, and he’d be mocked and ridiculed for it not just enjoying how lucky he was to have had the attentions of a woman on him.

            It’s a disgusting double standard and you’ve shown that you’re part of the problem.

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              The end all be all here is — don’t rape. Idk why you’ve got such a problem with that, most reasonable people don’t. If you can’t understand that then I don’t think you have any right to say who is a problem at all 😂

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              lol who is spouting the double standards?? “If he tried to report it it wouldn’t go anywhere” ummm not true? Kinda sounds like you’re speaking from experience lol

              It’s okay one day your frontal lobe will be fully formed and you’ll understand the basics of how the world works.

              Keep labeling me whatever you want, the only one who is in the wrong is you lol

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        It’s heavily implied she consented while intoxicated, which is impossible according to the poster, and is therefore considered rape, even though both were under the influence

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          It’s not impossible because of the poster. It’s impossible because of the features of contract law.

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            Legal consent in criminal law and legal consent for contracts are two different things. It’s like you haven’t even read § 1-201 of the UCC…geeez! (/s on that last part if it wasn’t clear)

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              They both derive from the standard and have been interpreted differently given the different contexts and applications. For the purposes of this conversation about the poster, they’re similar enough to make the point. I’m not bringing suit, I’m trying to explain why legal consent and intoxication bear on one another in a court.

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      I can understand and appreciate the intentions, but there are few things worse than good intentions without intelligence, flexibility and nuance, as the statements below seem accurate and feel utterly screwed up:

      He got drunk and had sex with a woman - HE goes to jail.
      She got drunk and had sex with a man - HE goes to jail.

      It’s almost like what Public Enemy said in “Fear Of A Black Planet”:
      Black man, black woman - black baby
      White man, black woman - black baby
      Black man, white woman - black baby