• stoly@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    This is the part that gets me. It keeps happening and they think that it’s just fine.

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      They just love any excuse to pull out the toys.

      When I was in high school I thought I was going to be a cop. Mostly because I was an unoriginal idiot and a friend wanted to be a cop. Went so far as to go through the explorers program where you hang out with cops and they show you stuff. You go on ride alongs. Spend a lot of time with cops.

      As it happens about half the guys teaching this program were swat.

      They were drooling for any excuse to suit up and kick down doors.

      This was 20 years ago, at the time they’d tell you that 90% of officers never use their firearm on duty.

      It colors their perception of any situation. Affects their decision making.

      Could this be a prank? Maybe. But could I put on the armor and kick in a door? I mean they did call in a threat…

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        Yeah. I took a communications course from a former cop/hostage negotiator. It was actually pretty informative. There is a national program to teach police how to be effective and empathetic communicators trained to defuse high stakes situations.

        They just don’t teach it to most cops.

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        I overall agree with your points but I will say that the type of person who probably excels at a life-or-death job like swat is someone who lives for that adrenaline rush in the first place. The problem is in their over-activation, like an overly-active immune system.

        I watched the Uvalde PBS Frontline documentary and what stood out to me is that all those cops were glorified ticket cops one-step removed from mall cops. The only two guys showcased to seem to know what they were doing and had a willingness to do so were the border patrol’s equivalent to swat, BORTAC, who seemed professional and were the ones who entered the room first and ultimately eliminated the shooter.

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        One of the more unnerving “benign” interactions I’ve had with a cop was when the officer standing guard duty at the DMV subjected my wife and I to ten minutes of exposition about his various weapons and the effects they had on people while we waited for the line to move us out of conversation range. It’s never been more clear to me that somebody desperately wants an excuse to do violence, to anybody he might be allowed to.

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          That guy almost needs to be reported as a danger. He knows all the weepon effects and has put himself in a position where he may be able to legally find out.