They are much less likely to see the country as an enemy than their parents
      • cucumber_sandwich@lemmy.world
        27·
        11 个月前

        the state maintains that this is a moral and legitimate use of force: that it has the authority to do this.

        I don’t necessarily agree with “moral”. In western democracies laws and use of force doesn’t legitimize itself by a call to morality usually. Just using some kind of authority, doesn’t make a government authoritarian by any common definition of the word.

          • cucumber_sandwich@lemmy.world
            16·
            11 个月前

            It absolutely does imo, it legitimises itself through an appeal to an underlying moral framework.

            Yes, but very indirectly. We don’t have a “moral police”, but one that enforces laws which are, as you say, legitimized by the people as a sovereign.

            So you don’t see police stopping people on “moral grounds” in some vague interpretation.

              • cucumber_sandwich@lemmy.world
                13·
                11 个月前

                Usually codified by lawy not prosecuted as “immoral behaviour” as such. Although if you look at recent anti-abortion legislation in the US it is intentionally vague. That shifts some burden of interpretation to the executive branch and is a sign of authoritarianism I’d say.