And you say that based on personal anecdotes, rather than education and design/testing/systems implementation experience.
Do you think 10k miles (unknown time frame, but my point stands even at one year) is a singular meaningful data point for the thousands (millions now?) of Autopilot enabled Teslas?
What is the right proportion for it to be blown up to your loved one was killed?
Because nothing more is necessary. If it was an “experiment” I would know about it because it would be driving erratically and attempting to kill me but instead it is “pretty good”.
What is the right proportion for it to be blown up to your loved one was killed?
I would be very upset that there was such an irresponsible driver behind the wheel for sure. That’s not Tesla’s fault. You can’t blame Tesla because they added safety features to the car…
Also there are dozens of other cars with this same technology on the road but everyone wants to pick on Tesla because it makes headlines.
If it was an “experiment” I would know about it because it would be driving erratically and attempting to kill me but instead it is “pretty good”.
Mate, that’s not an experiment lifecycle works at all. The ignorance on display here is palpable.
I would be very upset that there was such an irresponsible driver behind the wheel for sure. That’s not Tesla’s fault. You can’t blame Tesla because they added safety features to the car…
How convenient, you avoided answering my question at all! And rather blame the poor implementation of an inaccurate technology, disguised as a safety feature (that has directly caused 17 fatalities, mind you), you blame the user (victim). Actually, I’d make the argument this isn’t a “safety feature” at all, more of a convenience feature, but I digress.
Also there are dozens of other cars with this same technology on the road but everyone wants to pick on Tesla because it makes headlines.
I’ll gladly shit on all the other manufacturers implementing this technology. It’s all garbage if it poses a threat to a human life.
All of this is out of scope as my point is your anecdotal experience is not significant and dismissing results due to your own biases is quite ignorant.
eye roll I’m so ignorant. My CompE Master’s and my previous work in vision-based AI collision detection systems has left me woefully unprepared to have educated and qualified experience for this exact topic.
Why do you hate children?
I never mentioned children, don’t put words in my mouth. Keep deflecting.
I’m sure the 17+ dead human lives really appreciate this “protection”.
Maybe “results” wasn’t the right word. Dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology might fit better, but I’m definitely calling the number of fatalities and accidents caused by Autopilot as results of Autopilot and therefore Tesla.
It is not my intention to attempt to change your mind on this technology though, I’m just pointing out your anecdotal experience is not significant and dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology due to your own biases is incredibly ignorant. This mindset is harmful whether you accept that or not.
My CompE Master’s and my previous work in vision-based AI collision detection systems has left me woefully unprepared to have educated and qualified experience for this exact topic.
That’s awesome! Would you share more with us about the research you conducted with Tesla’s AutoPilot, and specifically what makes it “experimental”?
I never mentioned children
How convenient, you avoided answering the question at all!
Here you go:
As I suspected, nothing points to the notion that this was caused by AutoPilot. It’s caused by inattentive drivers.
This is nothing but shit “journalism” playing on whatever is “hot” and trendy.
I’m sure the 17+ dead human lives really appreciate this “protection”.
There are no dead human lives. You’re just making that up.
dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology due to your own biases is incredibly ignorant.
I don’t have any biases. “Ignorant” is claiming that a driver assistance system is responsible for driver inattentiveness.
Why the accidents happen is not why I commented. I’m not going to argue if the assistance system is responsible or the driver is, that’s a different argument and it’s my fault I let it get to this point.
I don’t have any biases.
Says the person that literally drives a Tesla with Autopilot, as claimed in your parent comment.
“Bias: A statistical sampling or testing error caused by systematically favoring some outcomes over others.”
You’ve favored your own 10k+ miles over an ex-Tesla employee and refuse to accept reported data. Funnily enough, your narcissistic anecdotes are another type of fallacy related to your confirmation bias.
Let’s revisit why I commented again:
Your ignorance is due to you believing your personal anecdotal evidence is qualified in any way to dismiss Autopilot issues as an experiment.
You’ve drawn a conclusion using fallacious information. That’s it.
That’s literally the entire point of the article in OP. You repeatedly blamed Autopilot for several deaths. If that’s not the point, what is?
Says the person that literally drives a Tesla with Autopilot
That doesn’t inherently make me biased. I can and will gladly talk shit about all the dumb shit Tesla does. There’s plenty of it to go around without fabricating nonsense.
You’ve favored your own 10k+ miles over an ex-Tesla employee and refuse to accept reported data
You keep repeating this and I keep correcting you. I’m not doing it again. I’ve been abundantly clear about this several times at this point. That’s not what’s happening. If you want to argue with a strawman, feel free to do that with yourself.
Your ignorance is due to you believing your personal anecdotal evidence is qualified in any way to dismiss Autopilot issues as an experiment.
It absolutely is. It doesn’t require anything more. That’s just a fact.
That’s literally the entire point of the article in OP. You repeatedly blamed Autopilot for several deaths. If that’s not the point, what is?
Let me check where I first commented on the article. Oh…I didn’t, just on your anecdotal evidence. I tried to give some frame of reference for your “proportion” which devolved into discussing responsibility for the deaths. Not my intention with my parent comment reply.
It absolutely is. It doesn’t require anything more. That’s just a fact.
I’ll start letting everyone know their anecdotal evidence is more than enough to start dismissing other qualified claims then. This is going to revolutionize science and reality!
And you say that based on personal anecdotes, rather than education and design/testing/systems implementation experience.
Do you think 10k miles (unknown time frame, but my point stands even at one year) is a singular meaningful data point for the thousands (millions now?) of Autopilot enabled Teslas?
What is the right proportion for it to be blown up to your loved one was killed?
Because nothing more is necessary. If it was an “experiment” I would know about it because it would be driving erratically and attempting to kill me but instead it is “pretty good”.
I would be very upset that there was such an irresponsible driver behind the wheel for sure. That’s not Tesla’s fault. You can’t blame Tesla because they added safety features to the car…
Also there are dozens of other cars with this same technology on the road but everyone wants to pick on Tesla because it makes headlines.
Mate, that’s not an experiment lifecycle works at all. The ignorance on display here is palpable.
How convenient, you avoided answering my question at all! And rather blame the poor implementation of an inaccurate technology, disguised as a safety feature (that has directly caused 17 fatalities, mind you), you blame the user (victim). Actually, I’d make the argument this isn’t a “safety feature” at all, more of a convenience feature, but I digress.
I’ll gladly shit on all the other manufacturers implementing this technology. It’s all garbage if it poses a threat to a human life.
All of this is out of scope as my point is your anecdotal experience is not significant and dismissing results due to your own biases is quite ignorant.
Agreed.
Why do you hate children?
[citation needed]
It doesn’t. It’s the opposite. It protects human life.
How can I “dismiss results” when none have been presented?
eye roll I’m so ignorant. My CompE Master’s and my previous work in vision-based AI collision detection systems has left me woefully unprepared to have educated and qualified experience for this exact topic.
I never mentioned children, don’t put words in my mouth. Keep deflecting.
Here you go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/06/10/tesla-autopilot-crashes-elon-musk/
Nifty: https://www.tesladeaths.com/
I’m sure the 17+ dead human lives really appreciate this “protection”.
Maybe “results” wasn’t the right word. Dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology might fit better, but I’m definitely calling the number of fatalities and accidents caused by Autopilot as results of Autopilot and therefore Tesla.
It is not my intention to attempt to change your mind on this technology though, I’m just pointing out your anecdotal experience is not significant and dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology due to your own biases is incredibly ignorant. This mindset is harmful whether you accept that or not.
Best of luck and good day.
That’s awesome! Would you share more with us about the research you conducted with Tesla’s AutoPilot, and specifically what makes it “experimental”?
How convenient, you avoided answering the question at all!
As I suspected, nothing points to the notion that this was caused by AutoPilot. It’s caused by inattentive drivers.
This is nothing but shit “journalism” playing on whatever is “hot” and trendy.
There are no dead human lives. You’re just making that up.
I don’t have any biases. “Ignorant” is claiming that a driver assistance system is responsible for driver inattentiveness.
Bye bye now.
Why the accidents happen is not why I commented. I’m not going to argue if the assistance system is responsible or the driver is, that’s a different argument and it’s my fault I let it get to this point.
Says the person that literally drives a Tesla with Autopilot, as claimed in your parent comment. “Bias: A statistical sampling or testing error caused by systematically favoring some outcomes over others.” You’ve favored your own 10k+ miles over an ex-Tesla employee and refuse to accept reported data. Funnily enough, your narcissistic anecdotes are another type of fallacy related to your confirmation bias.
Let’s revisit why I commented again:
Your ignorance is due to you believing your personal anecdotal evidence is qualified in any way to dismiss Autopilot issues as an experiment.
You’ve drawn a conclusion using fallacious information. That’s it.
Hey welcome back!
That’s literally the entire point of the article in OP. You repeatedly blamed Autopilot for several deaths. If that’s not the point, what is?
That doesn’t inherently make me biased. I can and will gladly talk shit about all the dumb shit Tesla does. There’s plenty of it to go around without fabricating nonsense.
You keep repeating this and I keep correcting you. I’m not doing it again. I’ve been abundantly clear about this several times at this point. That’s not what’s happening. If you want to argue with a strawman, feel free to do that with yourself.
It absolutely is. It doesn’t require anything more. That’s just a fact.
Bless your heart, sweetie.
Let me check where I first commented on the article. Oh…I didn’t, just on your anecdotal evidence. I tried to give some frame of reference for your “proportion” which devolved into discussing responsibility for the deaths. Not my intention with my parent comment reply.
I’ll start letting everyone know their anecdotal evidence is more than enough to start dismissing other qualified claims then. This is going to revolutionize science and reality!