• Kayn@dormi.zone
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    10 months ago

    Don’t find yourself in a false sense of security.

    Your games on Steam are just as ephemeral as any other digital content purchased online.

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      10 months ago

      All the physical games i ever owned went up in flames when my house burned down. I can still play games i bought on steam in 2008

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        10 months ago

        You could have made digital backups of your physical games and stored that somewhere safe.

        You cannot make backups of DRM’d Steam games that work without Steam.

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          10 months ago

          Please don’t fucking tell me you mad digital backup of your 50 xbox games and 40 playstation games and have a modded playstation and xbox laying around where you can just burn them whenever you wanna play them.

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            10 months ago

            Exactly. Some of the replies in this thread are so disingenuous.

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              10 months ago

              Just because you don’t care about backing things up doesn’t mean nobody else is.

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                10 months ago

                I can promise the number of people backing up their Xbox/SNES/Sony/whatever games at the time/era of release, are a rounding error number of people who purchased at all. And even if that was the case, how are you gonna do that for the discs that have DRM? Obviously it can be cracked, but how does that help you in that specific time of need (referencing the house fire), when the tech to crack that DRM didn’t even exist?

                Nobody is arguing with “physical copies have better security” (digital storefronts closing, keys being revoked, etc), they’re only arguing with you for pretending everyone is seemingly clairvoyant, with pools of money and compute hardware, to make backups of these things. There is no way you can possibly think that all one needed to do was “copy da files dumbass” when even the hardware to do that, didn’t exist (for the public or at all), or was itself prohibitevly expensive.

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          10 months ago

          You can’t make digital backups of physical games with drm either since you need the original disc to play (or atleast that was the case last time I bought a physical game which is probably around 2005 or something lmao)

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            10 months ago

            You are spot on, DRM is the problem at the core. That’s why I prefer DRM-free stores like GOG over Steam whenever possible.

            Luckily many of the old games I own on CD are also available on GOG.

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              10 months ago

              Steam doesn’t enforce DRM, your game can use Steamworks even without DRM.

              The no-DRM policy sure is very good, but in the end any game on GoG is there by choice of the publisher, who could also choose not to use DRM on Steam.

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          10 months ago

          Digital backups of my Steam games exist on torrents. If Steam ever becomes shitty like this I can stop purchasing from them and reacquire it from the Jolly Roger.

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          You can make Steam offline mode and you absolutely will have access to any game installed on your machine.

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            10 months ago

            Not any game. Games that depend on third-party DRM may still demand a brief internet connection during offline mode.

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      True, but at least at this point, Valve is not a publicly traded company. Gabe clearly understands that piracy is an availability/distribution problem.

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      10 months ago

      Even then in a worst case scenario due to the open platform piracy is a possibility. That’s where some of the peace of mind comes from compared to purchasing of digital goods for a closed system.

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      10 months ago

      You’re just one heartbeat away from seeing Steam turn into an EA competitor by some billionaires son/ self made CEO

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      10 months ago

      Incorrect. Steam games are licensed to you. If the dev or publisher want to remove the game from Steam, it will still be in your library.

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        10 months ago

        You conveniently left out that Valve can terminate your account for reasons unrelated to the games you’d lose that way.

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        10 months ago

        there is this old game “Blur”, it got discontinued and delisted on Steam, yet those who owned it can still download and play it

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          It still is, the Single Player is still available if you read the article. They just shut down servers, and that’s on Square Enix.

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              10 months ago

              Update: It appears that contrary to what I first believed, the single-player portion of the game—Order of War without the “Challenge”—is still available on Steam, and only the multi-player content has been removed.