Because I don’t want governments having any pressure regarding what people make. If the EU actually respected games as art, they’d damn well understand how government pressure and money corrupts the final product.
Because it’s so much better when Tencent and the UAE do that without any kind of transparency…
This kind of funding has been integral to the development of some of my very favorite games, and quite different ones (shout-out to the CNC in France for example). They’re just optional subsidies, and the organisation doesn’t intervene in the project itself. They’ll probably care if you are making something illegal, but you know, justice will have something to say about it anyway.
Also as always, “political” is not a thing you can end a discussion on if you’re honest about what you mean. There are not “political” and “apolitical” things, everything touching society at one point or another is “politics”. Yes, even getting your game funded through a bank or private company has implications, probably more than what is presented in that proposition.
Most of what these guidelines say is about local resources, reach and accessibility. Yes, it’s a political choice. Not caring about that is another.
“everything is political” is just retarded cope from people like you who get upset that they can’t use everything as a the basis of their political rants
These kind of initiatives are actually pretty great. Like most english language media, video games are pretty American dominated. Funding to games with unique perspectives could lead to some really interesting projects. I played a really interesting game called Black Book a while back. It was a fascinating look into Finno-Ugric culture in pre-revolution Russia (and a pretty good game, too). I’d love to see more titles like that
I wish the EU would just fuck off of the games industry
So, you’re also American.
I don’t generally think that “culture” policies like this make much sense, but it’s important to note that “promoting culture” is the subject of legislation in a number of countries outside the US to a greater degree than it is here.
Things like quotas on domestically-produced content on radio or television are common in a number of countries. Even Canada does that.
It’s common in many countries in Europe to have something like a “culture ministry”, where a portion of the executive portion of government is dedicated to setting policies associated with culture.
So while I get the whole gut “why is the government trying to legislate culture” thing, this sort of thing is not gonna be wildly unusual in a number of countries in Europe in other forms of media. That is, it’d be a little odd if this wasn’t specifically done with video games, by the norms there.
And I don’t fucking want the American government involved either. Or the Chinese government. I don’t even want industry jannies like the esrb ibvolved.
this sort of thing is not gonna be wildly unusual in a number of countries in Europe in other forms of media. That is, it’d be a little odd if this wasn’t specifically done with video games, by the norms there.
So? It’s still shit when they do it elsewhere too, but this is a thread about video games. “the government already fucks up other industries already” is possibly the absolute worst possible argument for doing something.
I wish the EU would just fuck off of the games industry. The last thing we need is a bunch of eurotrash politicians pushing politics onto the industry
Why are you against them advocating for the industry, promoting jobs, and recognizing the significance of the videogame market?
Is this just your insecurity talking because they want to promote gender diversity in the job market?
Because I don’t want governments having any pressure regarding what people make. If the EU actually respected games as art, they’d damn well understand how government pressure and money corrupts the final product.
Because it’s so much better when Tencent and the UAE do that without any kind of transparency…
This kind of funding has been integral to the development of some of my very favorite games, and quite different ones (shout-out to the CNC in France for example). They’re just optional subsidies, and the organisation doesn’t intervene in the project itself. They’ll probably care if you are making something illegal, but you know, justice will have something to say about it anyway.
Also as always, “political” is not a thing you can end a discussion on if you’re honest about what you mean. There are not “political” and “apolitical” things, everything touching society at one point or another is “politics”. Yes, even getting your game funded through a bank or private company has implications, probably more than what is presented in that proposition.
Most of what these guidelines say is about local resources, reach and accessibility. Yes, it’s a political choice. Not caring about that is another.
“everything is political” is just retarded cope from people like you who get upset that they can’t use everything as a the basis of their political rants
These kind of initiatives are actually pretty great. Like most english language media, video games are pretty American dominated. Funding to games with unique perspectives could lead to some really interesting projects. I played a really interesting game called Black Book a while back. It was a fascinating look into Finno-Ugric culture in pre-revolution Russia (and a pretty good game, too). I’d love to see more titles like that
You want the EU to stop funding a shitload of games like they’ve done for decades? Weird take but ok?
If it means their grubby hand are out of it, yes.
So, you’re also American.
I don’t generally think that “culture” policies like this make much sense, but it’s important to note that “promoting culture” is the subject of legislation in a number of countries outside the US to a greater degree than it is here.
Things like quotas on domestically-produced content on radio or television are common in a number of countries. Even Canada does that.
It’s common in many countries in Europe to have something like a “culture ministry”, where a portion of the executive portion of government is dedicated to setting policies associated with culture.
So while I get the whole gut “why is the government trying to legislate culture” thing, this sort of thing is not gonna be wildly unusual in a number of countries in Europe in other forms of media. That is, it’d be a little odd if this wasn’t specifically done with video games, by the norms there.
And I don’t fucking want the American government involved either. Or the Chinese government. I don’t even want industry jannies like the esrb ibvolved.
So? It’s still shit when they do it elsewhere too, but this is a thread about video games. “the government already fucks up other industries already” is possibly the absolute worst possible argument for doing something.
You will be very surprised to know just how much the US gets involved in video games already.
I’m aware. Doesn’t mean I like it, or that it excuses making things worse