Seriously I’m so confused on this. The USA has a 2 party system. You either vote for Biden or you get Trump. Abstaining from the vote you get Trump. MAGA will have a 100% turnout for their God Emperor.
Trump supports Israel 100%. Again, by not voting for Biden the reality is you’re voting for Trump who is even more supportive of Israel and will also attempt to upend democracy in the west.
You don’t have any options here that support Palestine. The reality of the situation is you either get Biden or Trump and the latter is infinitely worse for the ideal you’re trying to uphold by abstaining. That’s how politics work in the US. You might not like it, it sucks, but unfortunately that’s just the way things work.
CMV
Trumpists have been actively deflecting from their own Asshole in Chief’s genocidal support by pointing to Biden’s genocidal support. As a result, people who haven’t been paying attention are completely unaware of how much more Trump supports killing brown people.
The reality is that the two options are Genocide Lite and Literal Nazi Supporting Genocide. Not voting or voting third petty gets you Literal Nazi Supporting Genocide. There is no realistic option that gets you Palestinian support, and you can blame the two party system for that, but at the end of the day we are all being forced to decide which flavor of genocide we’d prefer.
How are there individuals who understand the Palestinian/Gaza conflict circumstances regarding Biden yet don’t have knowledge of Trump’s absolute undying support for Benjamin Netanyahu?
Because of right wingers muddying the waters to try to make Trump seem like the better option by keeping Biden front and center.
Spoiler: he’s worse than Biden.
People are not leaving the Democrat party to go to Trump.
They are leaving the Democrat party to leave the 2 party system.
They are disenfranchised, as they should be in the context.
Its a difference that Biden boot-lickers cant seem to wrap their mind around.
There’s a point to be made that NOW is not the time to make this stand. Leave the Democratic Party- and you’re handing america to trump.
Period. End of argument.
While you aren’t wrong, with all the sycophants and rural christofacists lining up downstream, when is a good time to leave the Democratic Party? The wealthy seemingly have ultimate control of both parties, regardless of social pressures, so what choice ultimately will right the ship, rather than just kick the bucket further along?
I definitely don’t want Trump, but the question still remains: how long to we have to stomach the lesser of two evils?
I also want to abolish the 2 party system. It’s the only way we will ever see true progress or stand a chance of reducing the influence of the rich.
Duverger’s Law says that voting systems with a single winner will result in two main parties emerging with votes merely drawn away by other parties.
In other words, voting 3rd party in our current system won’t make a 3rd party viable. At best it will replace one of the parties.
Instead, if you want a multi party system, the most effective way to achieve that is for you to work on getting ranked choice voting in your state.
https://fairvote.org/our-reforms/ranked-choice-voting/
Because its inconvenient to their narrative.
a genuine answer from an arab who spends a lot of time around arabs:
the thought is if we don’t vote for biden now, it shows that there is an important bloc of people for whom support of palestine is non negotiable.
while this means a win for trump in 2024, in 2028 it means the democrats will have to run an anti genocide candidate if they want to win
If Trump wins, we won’t have fair elections in 2028. Do they need to see a second insurrection to get off the fence?
Absolutely this. Every election is becoming more of a zero sum game than the last. In the 24 election one of the candidates is very open about his fascist view and implementation if said views
Right? Like, just go read about Project 2025 if you somehow still think the GOP is benign. Jfc.
Or, idk, maybe remember the absolute clusterfuck that was the Trump presidency? That was only 2016-2020 so not particularly hard to remember if you’re not suffering memory loss.
Anyone who says it is worth risking Trump and the GOP gaining power again is either a fool, a fascist or racist Trump shill, ignorant, stupid, insane, suffering memory loss, experiencing cognitive decline, or an operative for a foreign government working psyops – or some combination thereof.
We don’t have fair elections now.
They’ve never ever been truly fair. But it can definitely get worse. Don’t make excuses.
Became there are people like you and the comment you’re replying to you that think they understand the conflict, but in reality just fall for propaganda.