could cite tons of capitalist garbage in favor of renterism
Okay. Do it then.
Point is renting is a business, like any other.
It is literally distinct enough that we define the rentier class separately from the capitalist class
The business owner can fleece customers or treat them like humans. We choose to be the latter, we choose to treat our renters fairly and give them an excellent service, and if that’s too difficult for you to separate from your prejudice for that facet of capitalism I see no reason to waste further conversation on the subject.
Can you please seperate systemic critique from moralizing? The point isn’t to call you a bad person, in the same way ecology isn’t about calling mosquitos evil. You’re frankly missing the point by being defensive and arguing “okay but some mosquitos don’t carry malaria”
No. No, I don’t think so. I’m not going to sit here, waste my time making a case, and be your whipping boy for every piece of shit landlord or landowning conglomerate that treats tenants like numbers to be squeezed for profit. You’re not here in good faith, your mind is made up, so there’s no point. This isn’t systemic critique, this is about me stepping in and trying to point out we’re not all bastards and we treat people well, but that doesn’t matter here. You’ve made a completely manufactured position that has no real world basis that you’re trying to make me defend, I’m sure some form of rent has existed since before the pyramids so there’s no case for me to make. Rent is a default position for those that don’t own, unless we’re going to get into the weeds over some sort of pointless discussion of property ownership being horrible in general (which I tend to agree with). I shouldn’t have to explain that. It’s business. And for the record, you’re inventing morality that renting is some kind of moral failing when, as I mentioned, some form of renting has been around since recorded history. It’s business. Hope you have decent landlords, I’m done here.
unless we’re going to get into the weeds over some sort of pointless discussion of property ownership being horrible in general (which I tend to agree with). I shouldn’t have to explain that.
That is literally my central argument.
I’m gonna have to point out that I’ve repeatedly said some variation of “this isn’t about landlords being evil, this is about the system that creates landlords being harmful” and you’ve continued to take it as a personal attack, over and over again.
The response to
“this isn’t about landlords being evil, this is about the system that creates landlords”
Really shouldn’t be
“but I’m not a bad landlord! Not all landlords are slumlords”
Okay. Do it then.
It is literally distinct enough that we define the rentier class separately from the capitalist class
Can you please seperate systemic critique from moralizing? The point isn’t to call you a bad person, in the same way ecology isn’t about calling mosquitos evil. You’re frankly missing the point by being defensive and arguing “okay but some mosquitos don’t carry malaria”
No. No, I don’t think so. I’m not going to sit here, waste my time making a case, and be your whipping boy for every piece of shit landlord or landowning conglomerate that treats tenants like numbers to be squeezed for profit. You’re not here in good faith, your mind is made up, so there’s no point. This isn’t systemic critique, this is about me stepping in and trying to point out we’re not all bastards and we treat people well, but that doesn’t matter here. You’ve made a completely manufactured position that has no real world basis that you’re trying to make me defend, I’m sure some form of rent has existed since before the pyramids so there’s no case for me to make. Rent is a default position for those that don’t own, unless we’re going to get into the weeds over some sort of pointless discussion of property ownership being horrible in general (which I tend to agree with). I shouldn’t have to explain that. It’s business. And for the record, you’re inventing morality that renting is some kind of moral failing when, as I mentioned, some form of renting has been around since recorded history. It’s business. Hope you have decent landlords, I’m done here.
That is literally my central argument.
I’m gonna have to point out that I’ve repeatedly said some variation of “this isn’t about landlords being evil, this is about the system that creates landlords being harmful” and you’ve continued to take it as a personal attack, over and over again.
The response to
“this isn’t about landlords being evil, this is about the system that creates landlords”
Really shouldn’t be
“but I’m not a bad landlord! Not all landlords are slumlords”